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Hey, don't be so defensive let's just discuss this. You asked for other ideas, so you are getting them. So let's look at this weight more closely that you want to keep to a minimum. MDF, 3lbs/sq ft, sure Trupan may be 80% of the weight. The box for the pair of 8's will be around .8-.9cuft, so for easy math lets say 1ft (cubed) which is only .67 cuft but with 5 sides the enclosure will weigh 15lbs with MDF and a whopping 10-12lbs with Trupan. Each of your subs is more than the enclosure. If weight were really such a concern, I'd really like to know why using one driver with nearly the same enclosure size and the nearly the same weight wouldn't be actually your goal. You use the word "paramount" but then add another driver that is equal to the weight of the enclosure. Note I was very conservative on the enclosure weight. 10lbs would mean Trupan is only 2lb/sq ft and I didn't add any weight for the baffle side of the enclosure. Your box will weigh more than that. On top of that I only computed it for a .67 cuft enclosure and not the actual .9 or so that you would need. One other comment. Your claim your goal is SQ, but yet you are willing to sacrifice the single most important portion of setting up a sub by putting it in a sub-par enclosure from a rigidity standpoint. I realize this is for a compromise, but then saying that you concerns are for the utmost SQ is a bit oxymoronic. *I will also argue that you won't feel the difference of the weight by saving 20% of the box weight in your car as an under 10lb change isn't much, but that discussion we can have elsewhere as we should first address your concern with the box. Easy to test the weight difference though. Go take a lap and then add 2 gallons of gas and take it again, it will be the equivalent of having the sub box be made from 3/4".

You may have seen me harp about mounting locations and such for different drivers. Everyone wants to know where to mount their tweeters for instance, without describing what they have for a car or for tweeters. I have never met two different tweeters that sounded their best in the same mounting location. Some like to be near on axis, some completely off, it all depends on what sound you like and more importantly the roll-offs of the individual driver. While I almost always prefer my mids on axis, I can't say that I have ever really heard a tweeter in a car that I prefer on axis. Obviously I haven't tried them all though.

shove it up your bumb

If you want lightweight, Baltic birch ply in 3/4" will be the same or less weight than a 1/2" mdf enclosure. Considering weight & SQ are your paramount issues, I would 1) Limit the enclosure material weight, obviously IB is best, small sealed 2nd, 2) Pick my driver based on what it can do, but also with enclosure size as part of the equation, 3) Limit the overall weight of the driver as this will make a HUGE impact on the overall weight. So what am I saying? I'd use a different sub and just a single one. That will give you more weight savings than looking at just the thickness of the enclosure. If you do use both, I would argue that you aren't that concerned with weight really.

clean ur drive way lol It was clean about 3 hours before. Look around at the trees, I have to clean it everyday for the next month and even then by the time you are done blowing it off it is covered again.

Did they card you? Have to look like a "sniffer" to the girl working there.

Yeah, I know I should step out of the car to take a picture, but wth at least I posted some.

500 feet away from the above Backyard and driveway

/\ that picture wasn't a scenic place, just the street I live on.

Didn't see that thread, but considering how much shit has been popping up here I can't say that I am surprised.

I'll take some real pictures if I can get time to plop the boat in the water this week.

I use mine as a 2way+sub so it is easy. Are you going to have amplifiers that will be flexible crossover wise? Have you selected mounting locations and drivers yet?

Welcome

Indeed. Worrying about the numbers of the enclosure without understanding what the environment of the vehicle will do to it is a bit pointless. Build big and be ready to make it smaller

what I have to drive home through:

yes

Terrible picture, but yesterday only one tree was yellow. Today half are :eek":

My yard

You surely don't need a tweeter with a 2". To this day the best sounding system I have heard in a car had no tweeter. I am not particularly fond of shrieking highs anyways, but I severely doubt you'd feel the need for a tweeter along with the peerless.

You could do a 2" full range as the Mli's do play higher than just midbass. http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_i...roducts_id=8478 Then you could probably even hide them in your pillars.

Even in a straight line

wow. Go Smart.

God I hated Kansas. No offense, but you're about the only cool thing I know from kansas. I'm sure there are more, but jesus was it awefull driving through there. Mmm, bbq. KS ribs >> all others. Texas might win on the brisket, but dang are there good eats in KS.

*moved to subwoofers/speakers Once a review is added I can move it back

I as well, but I'm already in the best apartment complex in the county. Shows how much improvement this place needs... You are also in Texas... dont hate! Appreciate! LOL