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Completely wooded 1 acre lot. I can't wait to friggin' move!!

It is all about the investment. Bought it for a quarter mil low which means good things in a year or two.

lots of room for peekas!

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She is a beast. 3800sq ft, 5 bedroom, billiard room, sun room and holy hell did we steal it pricewise!!

What can be made private logically should, what can't shouldn't.

no one is "giving" me advice, unless you're refering to all the manufactor's that make bullet tweeters, and include te 3.3uf 100v caps with them, and reccomend that you use them, if you dont have a crossover. you say theres a bigger risk of blowing them. must not be that big, if people have been running 10+ of them in their cars, with only a cap on each one (and the HF on the amp set) and theirs havent blown....i understand its not the PROPER way to do it, but again, theyre loud, harsh sounding tweeters. theyre not seas or any other SQ type tweeter. you keep saying that im doing it becuase others do, and yes, im going to use the caps becuase others have used them, and never had a problem blowing them. selenium, eminence, audiopipe (although not the best brands) but if they reccomend the cap to be used with their own product, i think it would work. even though its a 6dB slope, its crossing them at 6k hz..i dont think any frequencies 6k and above are going to blow these tweeters. if i take the same cap and put it on a 4 ohm driver, it crosses at 12khz, and a 2 ohm driver is 24k....... Unlike yourself, I know how they work. With that crossed at 6k you will only be down 12dB at 1500hz. Umm and all the pro-audio manufacturers pretty much recommend bi-amping and digital crossovers on the front end as well. The cap is just included as an oh shit protection device and not really meant to be used. Either way, I guess you know more than we do so go ahead.

Why would you buy the ripoff eD version of the Tangband???

There is also another reason why I am opposed to national healthcare. All wealthy Canadians come here for "real" surgeries, Europeans too. Social medicine and great doctors don't go hand in hand. And the bottom line is of course, the least efficient business in the struggling US is the government so making it bigger and therefore less efficient yet is stupid.

Word, I'll have to come for a visit once you & the w are settled. Thanks guys! The new digs will be significantly better than the old

Plus its the hop, it doesn't have to be relevant to anything.

I am almost Canadienne, eh.

First I never said they would blow as it has absolutely nothing to do with why you should use what, but you are right as considering the shallow slopes they will provide there will be a much larger chance for them to blow. I am not pulling the info from anywhere, unless you consider logarithm mathematics rocket science or something unknown. Further amusing is that you requested my help in understanding one of these simple crossovers before and couldn't design one, but I did for you and you still question my statements on them?? I am still thoroughly amused at whomever is giving you advice, you claimed nobody in the past but whatever idiot he is should really take just a little time to understand rudimentary Physics and actually think for once instead of doing something based on what other idiots are doing. So far you haven't been led down the right path in understanding absolutely anything about acoustics, audio, or implementation. We on the other hand keep directing you the right way, but you aren't happy with our answers since they don't line up with what you have already falsely discovered

*amused

stupid laptop is acting teh slow

If you do a 3 instead of a 4, I'd flare both ends though.

what part of this and your sig "lots of eminence tweets and mids" has me defining you on the bandwagon? It is all what you said. As for the crossover: first order = 6dB = simple cap which of course is exactly why we ALL recommended that you don't use them.

I'd give it a shot. My dumb ass never got around to resolving my router issue with Oink but will try harder here. Actually home this week too!

My sand is internally made though, I feel bad for the what yours must feel like

I also don't care what you put in your car, but would rather that you put what you do decide on in the right way. My comment was directly related to the fact that you are always asking for advice after a purchase instead of discussing the plan with us upfront. In the case here, we all would have told you it is crazy to use a first order crossover on a tweeter in particular with no adjustability in a car when output is your sole goal. Do get a crossover, or a headunit that has one and use it. There is no place for passive anything in your install. While you are at it adding some eq or better yet a lot of eq would really help as well. Stop taking the comments personally and realize that the direction they are coming from is helpful and when the comments aren't perhaps the direction wasn't a good choice in the first place. Again, this has nothing to do with the fact that we don't appreciate what you are installing. As for your comment on the finals in Tampa and who uses what. Simple question, if there are a bunch of idiots committing suicide are you going to join them too? On top of that perhaps the people at the finals actually understand processing and driver choice and chose pro audio parts and enough processing to actually make them work. Unbeknownst to you I will be doing a pro audio install, albeit in a boat partly for efficiency and partly for long throw but it will be 12v based and loud. It won't quite make the cut as an SQ install, but the focus will still be there.

dont know if that was a smart ass reply or not....but usually bass/loud highs distort on camera.... try not to get bent the Sq guys allways posture, about how it sounds !!! if they ever get to a Slayer concert... they would understand us better Well if that is the case, perhaps you should listen to Slayer in my truck once as it would make you feel like the stage is right in front of you. 99% isn't a high enough percentage... VJ I do find it funny that you say if you ever heard an SQ setup it wouldn't change your mind on driver selection, but you never have heard one. Don't short suit yourself before at least exposing yourself. The actual accuracy and sonic differences would blow you away more than 170dB does now. I do realize that there would be no way to satiate your desire for bass in an SQ realm since you could never truly have a front stage keep up, and if you actually did and listened to it at those volumes you would be deaf within minutes anyways so it is moot. What is my point? Just knocking things since you think you know about both sides but have only been exposed to one of them isn't going to help you out in life much. The other side of it of course, is don't assume since someone has a tendency to prefer one side of a scenario like this that they can't help out on the other....some of us have a wee bit of pro audio experience, like in my case I ran a sound board and designed small concert hall pa systems for 5 years.

Holy sand in the eyes morning

Hopefully she can teach you something

In that case get me a few as well i'm not greedy, i'll take just one please. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Well, if we're talking ideal, I need at least two, one for each channel And multiple rooms, hence the first request.