True. But on the same token, almost every sub I have owned I made sure would fit into my premade box. I guess I consider it premade, but it was a custom sealed box from a car audio shop over in Arizona (Chronic Sucks!), and it was I believe 1.0 or 1.25, which went along with all of the subs.

I would love to hear what is considered a 'real enclosure', since I figured the ThunderTC enclosure would count as one? I'm Not being a smartass, honestly just being curious.

Believe me through, if I had the money or time I would have built a custom enclosure for the JL and the Alpine! I personally would have loved to hear the JL in a spec built box

Alex

The very fact that you claim that RE RE's suck.. should warn anyone to take your review with a tablespoon of salt.

Those are great little subs that sound great and get loud in ported boxes.

A real enclosure is simply one that is designed appropriately for the driver.

The very fact that you claim that RE RE's suck.. should warn anyone to take your review with a tablespoon of salt.

Those are great little subs that sound great and get loud in ported boxes.

RE's, compared to a JL 12w3 or a Type R, in my opinion did suck. You also have to take into account that I listen to my music loud, and only had about 100 watts going into the RE. I listen to the same songs with every sub, and for example, my Three Six Mafia cd didnt hit as good with the RE's. Am I sure they can get loud in the right box? Sure. Did I personally think they were the greatest subs ever made? Hell no. And yeah, I'm sure they probably CAN sound good in a ported box, but I was using a box that was tuned to the factory specs (Whatever the hell the Qlogic bandpass enclosure is tuned at, the old school one with the plexiglass). Again, they probably sound good tuned, but I personally didn't enjoy them.

But then again, its an opinion, and like arsehos, everyone has one. You may think JL's suck, or that MTX is the best brand in the world, and that would be your opinion. I didn't think that anyone here had to praise RE. RE is a great brand, and I'm dying to get a SX. But entry level subs are exactly that.

Alex

LOL you had it in a bandpass box noob. Go do some research.

I hate to say it, but pre-fab bandpasses do kind of suck.

I have heard a few good BPs, but they were designed around the speaker being used.

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The very fact that you claim that RE RE's suck.. should warn anyone to take your review with a tablespoon of salt.

Those are great little subs that sound great and get loud in ported boxes.

RE's, compared to a JL 12w3 or a Type R, in my opinion did suck. You also have to take into account that I listen to my music loud, and only had about 100 watts going into the RE. I listen to the same songs with every sub, and for example, my Three Six Mafia cd didnt hit as good with the RE's. Am I sure they can get loud in the right box? Sure. Did I personally think they were the greatest subs ever made? Hell no. And yeah, I'm sure they probably CAN sound good in a ported box, but I was using a box that was tuned to the factory specs (Whatever the hell the Qlogic bandpass enclosure is tuned at, the old school one with the plexiglass). Again, they probably sound good tuned, but I personally didn't enjoy them.

But then again, its an opinion, and like arsehos, everyone has one. You may think JL's suck, or that MTX is the best brand in the world, and that would be your opinion. I didn't think that anyone here had to praise RE. RE is a great brand, and I'm dying to get a SX. But entry level subs are exactly that.

Alex

After this last post I think your opinion is worth even less, you broke pretty much every install rule a real installer will use. It can't get much worse than using a shitty crap box and an amp that is severly underpowered. It really wasn't at all a fair comparison, and guess what your favorite happened to be the most efficient and nothing else. Imagine that :(

T3 audio TSS series

so, wow, bandpass. Who puts a speaker like an RE in a bandpass. And where did u get the RE's that someone would allow you to put them in a bandpass box. Especially one that was bought from bestbuy or the like. I don't really even know what to say to that. I guess if ur using all that best bet for some subs is to go to Walmart and buy some lightning audio or somehting and put them in a box.

After this last post I think your opinion is worth even less, you broke pretty much every install rule a real installer will use. It can't get much worse than using a chitty crap box and an amp that is severly underpowered. It really wasn't at all a fair comparison, and guess what your favorite happened to be the most efficient and nothing else. Imagine that :(

Hrm. 'Amp that is severely underpowered'. Where did I say that my amp was underpowered? I said I ran the sub at 100watts. I was running the sub off of a Rockford T4004, but when I called up RE's tech department to see how much the sub could take before it would blow, they said 200 watts. I believe the amp put out around 150-175 per channel, so to err on the side of caution I ran it at 4ohm's to start with. As for the crappy box; yes, the bandpass is crap. I'll agree to that, but the sealed box wasn't. Sealed was 1.25 cu ft. Now, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will anyway), but isn't the recommended enclosure size for a RE12 1.25? What about Type R?

This is actually getting off topic. The guy asks about what everyones OPINION is on a good sub he should get, and I gave my opinion. I'm not saying you have to agree with my opinion, but I do not see a point in bashing EVERY reply that I have.

We're only bashing your tardedness. Not your replies.