Posted January 8, 201015 yr What is the reasoning for not putting one on? It should not be that hard or cost effective since many line drivers and whatnot have clipping indicators.
January 8, 201015 yr What is the reasoning for not putting one on? It should not be that hard or cost effective since many line drivers and whatnot have clipping indicators.I always wondered that too. My HT subwoofer amp has one and when I have parties and push the sub hard I always make sure I am under that point.
January 8, 201015 yr Author they arnt really that accurate anywaysMinor clipping is fine. It won't do harm to a subwoofer or midbass. It is nice to have an idea of where your gains should truely be set.
January 8, 201015 yr What is the reasoning for not putting one on? It should not be that hard or cost effective since many line drivers and whatnot have clipping indicators.My amp has one via the bass knob
January 8, 201015 yr they arnt really that accurate anywaysMinor clipping is fine. It won't do harm to a subwoofer or midbass. It is nice to have an idea of where your gains should truely be set.That depends on power level
January 8, 201015 yr If you could design a clipping indicator that worked and was cheap to manufacture they would include one.
January 9, 201015 yr someone made a topic about this a while back about clipping indicator accuracy and i went out to my car with an oscope and found on my audioque amps, the clip light would start to light up just before you could even visibly see the square wave forming on the scope. It wasn't until the clipping indicator was fully red til the square wave was finally visible on the scope.
January 9, 201015 yr Clipping indicators, even if accurate (which isn't a given), are only useful if the individual setting the gains understands how to use them.
January 9, 201015 yr someone made a topic about this a while back about clipping indicator accuracy and i went out to my car with an oscope and found on my audioque amps, the clip light would start to light up just before you could even visibly see the square wave forming on the scope. It wasn't until the clipping indicator was fully red til the square wave was finally visible on the scope.Well that's comforting!
January 9, 201015 yr someone made a topic about this a while back about clipping indicator accuracy and i went out to my car with an oscope and found on my audioque amps, the clip light would start to light up just before you could even visibly see the square wave forming on the scope. It wasn't until the clipping indicator was fully red til the square wave was finally visible on the scope.It is REALLY easy on a sine wave, try that on music. Of course I know you can't as you couldn't read it on the scope but neither can your amps. That was not a valid test of the light, lol.
January 9, 201015 yr how am i suppose to do that?Like u say, rapid changes will be impossible to detect on an oscope..However, speaking of music, because music has peaks, it's likely possible for equipment to clip without worry when it's just caused from peaks.
January 9, 201015 yr how am i suppose to do that?Like u say, rapid changes will be impossible to detect on an oscope..If you can't do it, how do think the indicator can? As I said, sine waves are easy. However, speaking of music, because music has peaks, it's likely possible for equipment to clip without worry when it's just caused from peaks.You realize you just stated that it is okay to clip on music and implied you shouldn't on sine waves. That isn't right. It is NEVER acceptable to clip. Do yourself a favor and run a clipped sine wave through an FFT analyzer once and see what happens. Then do the same exercise with music. You will never say that it is okay again.
January 9, 201015 yr well since i dont have one what happens..I say it's ok because it won't thermally hurt when it's instantaneous.... Unless your point is to prove that wrong...
January 9, 201015 yr well since i dont have one what happens..I say it's ok because it won't thermally hurt when it's instantaneous.... Unless your point is to prove that wrong...Do you know what a sine wave looks like in the frequency domain? How about a square wave? Now picture something in between the two.And by your second sentence I am now under the impression you have no idea why clipping is bad in the first place. What do you think happens to the average power when you clip? What do you think causes thermal issues in drivers?Do you understand now?
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