My opinion is a bit more extreme. I have been buying more budget amps with the power and features I want because I do not hear a difference between a MB Quart 4125 and a Sundown 100.4 for example. That is not a knock on Sundown or any other manufacturer. I am happy with my budget amps (Crunch GP3000D & MBQ 4125) and I have less than $545 total invested in both. They both put up big numbers, have nice internals, have been reliable, and as stated above I do not hear a difference in SQ from other products I have used in the past and I have used my share in 20+ years.

There are products that offer an excellent bang for the buck, but they require some research and thought process to find them. At the end of the day it's my ears I have to please.

^ This is my opinion and I am not trying to change anyone's thoughts. Just an old man sharing his thoughts.

unclean pretty much sums up all class D monoblocks, IMO.

They are what they are, big power on the cheap.

You do see the dichotomy in your two posts don't you??? Really funny actually.

Instead of making a thread about "is Amp X better then Amp Z" you should make one thread explaining your situation with your car, truck, suv, or bike and the equipment you have or are interested in getting including what size alternator and batts you have or are interested in getting then we all can chime in about what will work for you. You will get much better help that way instead of making threads like this.

what kind of install are you doing on bikes? lol haven't seen much on these. epically on here.

My opinion is a bit more extreme. I have been buying more budget amps with the power and features I want because I do not hear a difference between a MB Quart 4125 and a Sundown 100.4 for example. That is not a knock on Sundown or any other manufacturer. I am happy with my budget amps (Crunch GP3000D & MBQ 4125) and I have less than $545 total invested in both. They both put up big numbers, have nice internals, have been reliable, and as stated above I do not hear a difference in SQ from other products I have used in the past and I have used my share in 20+ years.

There are products that offer an excellent bang for the buck, but they require some research and thought process to find them. At the end of the day it's my ears I have to please.

^ This is my opinion and I am not trying to change anyone's thoughts. Just an old man sharing his thoughts.

unclean pretty much sums up all class D monoblocks, IMO.

They are what they are, big power on the cheap.

You do see the dichotomy in your two posts don't you??? Really funny actually.

I dont even know what a dichotomy is, had to look it up. lol

You have a point Sir.

Still not 100% dichotomy though. AB amps will always be better IMO just not always practical. The contridiction of my comment breaks down like this.

AB - cleaner, bigger, current hungry

D - smaller, more effecient, less expensive, more distortion.

Being that I am not a hard core SQ guy, I can live with it.

To say one Korean class D is cleaner then another Korean class D with similar features is the dichotomy.

Well since every post you have made is comparing RF to X....you should just get the RF.

RF is expensive, overpriced, but they make very nice amps, some of the best, IMO. I have run at least 20 different RF amps and never once had a problem with any of them. In your mind you think it's better and it will be because you think so.

Now if you truly have an open mind, Sundown will do everything the Fosgate will do and will save you some money too.

Truth be told I don't understand why people spend so much time debating amps. They all do the same thing. Just because one costs more does not make it better. I am now running what some classify as "budget amps" and I could not be happier with my choices.

That's not completely tru, ther are a couple of brand that are overrated and a few that even suck. I went through 3 Kenwood amps and they all over heated, traded them for MTX and it worked wonderfully. I think that's what people are trying to find out, if one brand is overrated, or overheats, or sounds crappy, etc...

mtx= overpriced hardcore and over hyped...... glad you got off kenwood though lol most of what they have is crap

I dont even know what a dichotomy is, had to look it up. lol

You have a point Sir.

Still not 100% dichotomy though. AB amps will always be better IMO just not always practical. The contridiction of my comment breaks down like this.

AB - cleaner, bigger, current hungry

D - smaller, more effecient, less expensive, more distortion.

Being that I am not a hard core SQ guy, I can live with it.

To say one Korean class D is cleaner then another Korean class D with similar features is the dichotomy.

So you can hear audible distortion differences in the tenths, hundredths, thousandths, or hundred-thousandths of a percent? Richard Clark has $10,000 waiting for you.

Class D amps have come a long way since they were first being used Sir-Lancelot.

Instead of making a thread about "is Amp X better then Amp Z" you should make one thread explaining your situation with your car, truck, suv, or bike and the equipment you have or are interested in getting including what size alternator and batts you have or are interested in getting then we all can chime in about what will work for you. You will get much better help that way instead of making threads like this.

what kind of install are you doing on bikes? lol haven't seen much on these. epically on here.

By bikes i wasn't referring peddle bikes lol i haven't seen any build logs with a bike yet on this forum, but i have seen amazing bikes with pretty sweet set-ups at shows i attend too.

I dont even know what a dichotomy is, had to look it up. lol

You have a point Sir.

Still not 100% dichotomy though. AB amps will always be better IMO just not always practical. The contridiction of my comment breaks down like this.

AB - cleaner, bigger, current hungry

D - smaller, more effecient, less expensive, more distortion.

Being that I am not a hard core SQ guy, I can live with it.

To say one Korean class D is cleaner then another Korean class D with similar features is the dichotomy.

So you can hear audible distortion differences in the tenths, hundredths, thousandths, or hundred-thousandths of a percent? Richard Clark has $10,000 waiting for you.

The Chairman of Good Harbor Consulting?

Instead of making a thread about "is Amp X better then Amp Z" you should make one thread explaining your situation with your car, truck, suv, or bike and the equipment you have or are interested in getting including what size alternator and batts you have or are interested in getting then we all can chime in about what will work for you. You will get much better help that way instead of making threads like this.

what kind of install are you doing on bikes? lol haven't seen much on these. epically on here.

By bikes i wasn't referring peddle bikes lol i haven't seen any build logs with a bike yet on this forum, but i have seen amazing bikes with pretty sweet set-ups at shows i attend too.

i knew you were talking about motorcycles, still interesting though

AB amps will always be better IMO just not always practical.

Helpful hint for the future. Adding the tag "IMO" behind a false statement doesn't make the preceding statement any less false

The world is flat, IMO

The Sun orbits the Earth, IMO

Grass is the color fuchsia, IMO

Class A/B amps are cleaner than class D amps, IMO

See what I mean?