Man the guys over in the VW forums would kill me for spending money on car audio before any performance upgrades, BUT I just got my 10' VW CC R-line and need to break in the engine 1st.

HOWEVER this winter when my engine is broken in I am flashing the cars ecu w/a APR Stage 1 flash which will give me 250HP and 294TQ (stock is 200Hp, 207TQ).

I will also give the CC a Carbonio Intake which should give me 10+ HP more I believe.

Can't wait!

Is the OEM tune that conservative? I've never seen those kinds of gains via tuning on a "stock" engine.

Allan Phillips Racing knows what they're doing..

The Tacoma APR-X1 is Badddd asss.

Is the OEM tune that conservative? I've never seen those kinds of gains via tuning on a "stock" engine.

No the stock #'s are not conservative. Like johnecon2001 said APR is very good at what they do! The 2.0T engine (FSI and TSI) that VW builds is a great engine to begin with. I have a '08 GTI ,which now that I have my new CC my wife drives. Talk about a fun car to drive! The CC performs well also. It just feels more "grown-up" compared to the GTI. I recommend VW cars to anyone. Unless you can afford a Audi or better yet a Mercedes. German cars all around really.

Allan Phillips Racing knows what they're doing..

The Tacoma APR-X1 is Badddd asss.

I'm not sure that the APR I'm talking about and the one your talking about are the same APR. Anyhow the Tacoma APR-X1 is bad ass. I was going to get a Tacoma 2 yrs ago but went GTI instead. Still want one though!

It's a turbo; now I see the gains.

Allan Phillips Racing knows what they're doing..

The Tacoma APR-X1 is Badddd asss.

I'm not sure that the APR I'm talking about and the one your talking about are the same APR. Anyhow the Tacoma APR-X1 is bad ass. I was going to get a Tacoma 2 yrs ago but went GTI instead. Still want one though!

Interesting, I automatically assumed they were one in the same. Sneaky companies.