are the hifonics amps still any good would anyone recommend them i had one about 4 years ago and it was stout its in my friends car and still playing. do they still do they still put out as much as they claim

Supposedly the 2010 models are CEA certified. Decent budget amps for sure, but just cost more than I'm willing to spend for a low end amp. If you want a solid budget amp that does rated power look into the Audiopipe AP series amps. They have class d amps in a variety of power levels.

AP4001D

AP8001D

AP10001D

AP15001D (I use this one and love it!)

AP18001D

AP30001D (which is actually 2 AP15001Ds strapped internally, basically a 2 channel amp that does 1500 x 2 at 1 ohm stereo or 3000 x 1 at 2 ohms bridged)

Check here for pricing (authorized internet dealer = legit manufacturer warranty)

http://vminnovations.com/Browse_68/Amplifiers.html?sort=&show=12&page=1&manuf=114

Hope this helps.