*buying in Dec of 2016 at earliest lol

which is why I am shopping now

Far from ugly and  they are a bit heavy, but all the new "muscle" cars are.

Makes me sick that Chrysler has the best interior and most power though. Boo. Most space as well.

It's HUGE though. More Mark VIII size than pony car....but for me that is good otherwise it'd be too small.

Sitting in the Delta lounge at MSP

Time for me to take advantage of the business class drink policy

Seems to disinfect pretty well.

So does salt

or vinegar for that matter

 

Far from ugly and  they are a bit heavy, but all the new "muscle" cars are.

Makes me sick that Chrysler has the best interior and most power though. Boo. Most space as well.

 

 

I think they have the WORST interior.  The power on all the bastards is pointless.  Too much of it, and they're still carrying too much weight.  Give me that power in a fox of 4th gen F-body any day. 

It's HUGE though. More Mark VIII size than pony car....but for me that is good otherwise it'd be too small.

The Mark is smaller in all dimensions.  When I test drove the Challengers and Chargers last they rivaled my Town Car in all but length.

And motherfucker, I purposely purchased the expensive Moog control arms for the Mark and the DS upper has under 1K miles on it, yet the ball joint is loose in the cup.

Far from ugly and  they are a bit heavy, but all the new "muscle" cars are.

Makes me sick that Chrysler has the best interior and most power though. Boo. Most space as well.

 

I think they have the WORST interior.  The power on all the bastards is pointless.  Too much of it, and they're still carrying too much weight.  Give me that power in a fox of 4th gen F-body any day.

Last year sure, but not this upcoming year. Complete flip around. And I don't know about worst. The Camaro's is FUCKING AWFUL. Worst monstrosity I've ever seen in a car they want to charge over $40k for.

It's HUGE though. More Mark VIII size than pony car....but for me that is good otherwise it'd be too small.

The Mark is smaller in all dimensions.  When I test drove the Challengers and Chargers last they rivaled my Town Car in all but length.

Where the fuck is the interior space then? Fucking Cadillac ATS has more space than any of them.

And that sucks...unless they put an LS in the ATS-V. Pretty sure it'll be twin turbo 6 though....which "could" be okay.

In particular if the ECU remains accessible and they use a somewhat standard turbo so they are easily replaced. If so, that may be a winner for cheap.

Having an anti GM guy owning two Caddy's though would make me sick.

Fuck, may not even need hardware upgrades ... just boost & tuning. "doh"

And motherfucker, I purposely purchased the expensive Moog control arms for the Mark and the DS upper has under 1K miles on it, yet the ball joint is loose in the cup.

You have HORSESHIT luck with anything automotive.

Atm if they make a TT ATS-V Convertible it may be my next work car.

If not, perhaps a Vsport Convertible with some gooodies

If it based on the coupe and they do what they did to the CTS I will cry though. I can't fit in a CTS coupe. NOT EVEN CLOSE

If they do a coupe with reasonable headroom and an LS that'd be sweet too

And now I get to watch my first movie since I flew to Asia, lol

Having an anti GM guy owning two Caddy's though would make me sick.

 

This is the NEW GM though.

 

And motherfucker, I purposely purchased the expensive Moog control arms for the Mark and the DS upper has under 1K miles on it, yet the ball joint is loose in the cup.

You have HORSESHIT luck with anything automotive.

 

 

Women and cars.

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