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I can by amp those 660 x overs with a Bit 1 and I  know I would be happy

This makes NO SENSE.

Pay $600 for a set of components where the actual drivers themselves would be around $20 each and then run them active. Even worse when they aren't optimized at all for your mounting locations (most likely). Seems to me you'd be better off saving the extra dough and just buying the drivers raw.

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  • Agreed. Invest in good processing and raw drivers, and achieve more for less. Have I tried or heard them...no. So take my comment for what it's worth.

  • I have always found that if I spend the money on a good quality product there is no need to equalize or process the shit out of it

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I just spent the last couple hours searching e bay for seperates...

found a few interesting mids and mid bass but nothing tweeter wise

that interests me for a decent price

looking for something like the old school 1" Pure Titanium Domes

...the Focal Berylium tweeters are nice but so is the $1500 price tag...OUCH

Berylium? sounds like marketing bullshit. bet a 100 dollar tweeter outperforms its. 

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I just threw away a pair of old school titanium domes. Had no idea anyone would ever want them. Doh.gif

well that sucks.....I love the old JBL Diamond stamped titanium domes

I found a few pairs of the 8ohm home audio plate style but no 4ohm car style yet

just a thought... if I go active I'm gonna need more amplifiers...

my wife is gonna hate me....LOL

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found a supplier with JBL Pro 1" pure Titanium Domes...........going 3 way active on the front stage

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the Titanium domes are $89 each plus shipping

 

I also found a 3" silk dome midrange transducers or the 4" DLS Scandinavia series mids

 

now all I got to do is decide on the mid bass....

going with two 6.5" in each door so 8ohm will work...keep the channels at 4ohm on each side

have you looked into the driver on sites like partsexpress or madisound? i would give zaphaudio's reviews and measurements a look as well. zaphaudio.com 

the Titanium domes are $89 each plus shipping

I also found a 3" silk dome midrange transducers or the 4" DLS Scandinavia series mids

now all I got to do is decide on the mid bass....

going with two 6.5" in each door so 8ohm will work...keep the channels at 4ohm on each side

If you are restricting yourself to dual 6.5" mids, and given your desire for high output, I think the Exodus Anarchy's would be worth a look. They are pretty easy to find used and while I don't think Exodus is selling them anymore someone else has resurrected them.

Any reason you wouldn't want to go with a single 8 per side?

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the Titanium domes are $89 each plus shipping

I also found a 3" silk dome midrange transducers or the 4" DLS Scandinavia series mids

now all I got to do is decide on the mid bass....

going with two 6.5" in each door so 8ohm will work...keep the channels at 4ohm on each side

If you are restricting yourself to dual 6.5" mids, and given your desire for high output, I think the Exodus Anarchy's would be worth a look. They are pretty easy to find used and while I don't think Exodus is selling them anymore someone else has resurrected them.

Any reason you wouldn't want to go with a single 8 per side?

 

 

 it's just personal preference.....I like having multiple smaller  mid bass

 

looking for something with high x max that can handle 50hz to 250hz preferably 8ohm

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found some

GR Research M165X woofer with XBL2 motor....X Max = 7.8mm one way

$90 buys you an awesome tweeter, personally I'd think about normal diy drivers. If you said $20 ea then okay.

Same on the mid and midbass. I'd AVOID looking at car audio anything as that won't help.

Something larger than a 6.5 makes a TON of sense for 50-250 btw.

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 I think two of these in each door will work nicely....LOTS of excursion

for a 6.5" woofer and a FS of 40.....and the XBL design has really tight sound

  http://gr-research.com/m165xwoofer.aspx

ex anarchy is 25mm peak to peak but can play far higher than 250hz, its also an xbl design. peerless sls 6.5 would be another idea.

 

i'd just run a single sls 8 per side. your doors will give out before the woofer.  

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The real question is why 2 6.5's instead of an 8. 250Hz is EASY for most 8's.

there is a certain point on the door that I want to stay below and I want to push the midbass

as forward as possible and the dash is in the way of an 8" fitting

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research is all done

 

going with the JBL Pro 1" pure titanium tweeters...they are raw replacement

elements so I have to get mounting plates machined

4 of them...2 up front and two in the back

190w rms per side

 

 

 these for mid range http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=VWR126X

4 of these ....2 up front and 2 in the back

190w rms per side

 

 these for mid basshttp://www.diysoundgroup.com/anarchy-woofer/anarchy.html

4 of them....2 in each door

280w rms per side

 

I am not putting mid bass in the rear...the doors will produce enough and I need the

room in the back to run the ports ( the build log will explain)

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it should sound really tight

those tweeters sound un like anything available for car audio

..the same titanium tweeters used in the high end night club and studio stuff

both the mids and mid bass are XBL*

ya..   what's going on in the back seat? 

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never to many drivers....one set of tweeters , one set of mids and double mid bass on

the front stage is similar to what I had in my last system ....it sounded awsome

 

nothing going in the back seat.....  there will be a tweeter and a 4.5" mid for each rear shock tower

so the rear seats have some top end and for when the hatch is open

 

the subs are going in the rear corners ...the ports will take up a lot of room to achieve

my port velocity target ...this has to be done with out getting in the way of the floor

panel folding up for axcess to the amps,battery and spare tire

not to mention I have to figure out where to put the bit one and extra battery

is this some kind of ms8 logic 7 install? i assume its not, in which case they're hurting the install quite severely. 

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