June 12, 200718 yr lol, tis not a problem. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
June 12, 200718 yr Author Well this looks like the best option:http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KLM-AK0It has everything I need, but also includes 5 feet of grounding wire so I can do part of the Big 3 and it also includes the terminals to do so. It even has wire loom and zip ties, which is nice. It's only $2.50 cheaper than buying separate, but you get all the afore mentioned extras so it's a good deal.I guess the KLM cable will be fine for my needs? Kolossus cable is $90 which seems like alot, but again if I'm going to need it I'll do it right the first time. Knu makes it seem like the Kolossus is only for those running lots of power and batteries in the rear of the vehicle that require loads of power-John
June 12, 200718 yr Author Kinda off-topic, but where can I go to find a price of US Amps? The SSA store only has the XT series of their amps...I saw on US Amps website that Star Customs in Austin is an authorized dealer and that's like 45mins away from my house so I'd like to get one from them unless there's a cheaper place. Plus I'd like to just get an idea of the price of oneI'm looking at something with 1000-1500watts at 1ohm to use with an ICON 12". I obviously wouldn't run the amp at full power since the ICON is rated at 900RMS, but I like to leave a little headroom for the future.-John
June 12, 200718 yr Kinda off-topic, but where can I go to find a price of US Amps? The SSA store only has the XT series of their amps...I saw on US Amps website that Star Customs in Austin is an authorized dealer and that's like 45mins away from my house so I'd like to get one from them unless there's a cheaper place. Plus I'd like to just get an idea of the price of oneI'm looking at something with 1000-1500watts at 1ohm to use with an ICON 12". I obviously wouldn't run the amp at full power since the ICON is rated at 900RMS, but I like to leave a little headroom for the future.-Johnif you are within driving distance of a dealer, by all means do the dealer. you get to see someone face to face, and they will take care of all your needs (unless they are jerks ) in person.for you an MD1, MD2, an XT4000D would suit you well.MSRP:MD1D *Mono $619.99MD2D *Mono $820.99XT4000D *Mono $575.99dont worry. thats msrp im sure you can talk the dealer down hmmm, it works fine in both of my vehicles...did you use the KLM or the kollossus? both of mine were klm.
June 12, 200718 yr Author if you are within driving distance of a dealer, by all means do the dealer. you get to see someone face to face, and they will take care of all your needs (unless they are jerks ) in person.for you an MD1, MD2, an XT4000D would suit you well.MSRP:MD1D *Mono $619.99MD2D *Mono $820.99XT4000D *Mono $575.99dont worry. thats msrp im sure you can talk the dealer down yeah the SSA store has the 4000D for $487... still more pricey than what I had in mind. I know US Amps and Sundown are damn near perfect amps, so is something like that even necessary for a daily driver? The efficiency is great, but is one of them really necessary especially for just 900watts on one sub?
June 12, 200718 yr yeah the SSA store has the 4000D for $487... still more pricey than what I had in mind. I know US Amps and Sundown are damn near perfect amps, so is something like that even necessary for a daily driver? The efficiency is great, but is one of them really necessary especially for just 900watts on one sub?YES. in my experience with usamps, 300w from a low end usamps 4 channel outperformed a viper 1200d, all external variables the same. and im sure that the sundownz performs the same as well. The bass was snappier, smoother, clearer, and actually louder. but if you can't afford it, what can we do? what is your budget anyways?
June 12, 200718 yr Author YES. in my experience with usamps, 300w from a low end usamps 4 channel outperformed a viper 1200d, all external variables the same. and im sure that the sundownz performs the same as well. The bass was snappier, smoother, clearer, and actually louder. but if you can't afford it, what can we do? what is your budget anyways?haha I don't really want to spend too much on the whole audio set-up. It's already aproaching $1k... I'll definitely have to look around and try and find a NIB one for cheap or a used one, cause I want to get quality stuff the first time or else it will only cost more. How much power can these ICON's really handle? Should I get 1000W or 1500W amp?-John
June 12, 200718 yr If you want to get quality stuff, you gotsta pay for it. overhead is your friend man... well if you can afford it lol. but just go with the 1000w, no real experience with the icon, just i like to go with power ratings. but like i said, overhead is good.edit: IMO its better to have a quality 1kw amp than a crappy 1.5kw amp
June 12, 200718 yr If you want to get quality stuff, you gotsta pay for it. overhead is your friend man... well if you can afford it lol. but just go with the 1000w, no real experience with the icon, just i like to go with power ratings. but like i said, overhead is good.edit: IMO its better to have a quality 1kw amp than a crappy 1.5kw ampx2 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
June 12, 200718 yr Author If you want to get quality stuff, you gotsta pay for it. overhead is your friend man... well if you can afford it lol. but just go with the 1000w, no real experience with the icon, just i like to go with power ratings. but like i said, overhead is good.edit: IMO its better to have a quality 1kw amp than a crappy 1.5kw ampyeah I think I'm going to go with a 1000watt from either sundown or US Amps. It will all depend on which deal falls into place, cause they're both quality amps-John
June 12, 200718 yr Author Approaching $1k?Get used to seeing higher numbers...well this is just for a single 12" sub downfired under the rear seat
June 13, 200718 yr Author What are you doing for a front stage?Nothing yet, I had trouble enough sorting through and finding the best sub for me, so I can't imagine finding a front stage... I haven't heard any speakers so I don't know what I like and everyone's opinion is exactly that, an opinion.... so it's hard to choose. At this time I'm just gonna leave it alone, cause it already has the BOSE system, which sucks, but it's better than the stock Chevrolet system. Any recommendations to look into? How much is the common front stage with amplifier and all that? $400-$500?-John
June 13, 200718 yr Author $500's possible, sure.I guess I'm just not sure what components really accomplish? Do they have stronger midbass or just cleaner crisper music without distortion, or both? I'd like to just sit in someones car that has a full audio set-up and see what it is I'm missing. Until then I'm happy with what I have, although I've noticed a little distortion in the speakers that I've never heard before... but what can you expect from paper cone speakers.-John
June 13, 200718 yr components are just a separate tweeter and woofer with a crossover. one of the positives of comps are you can place the tweeter whereever the heck you want them to get hte best sound stage.
June 13, 200718 yr john, the side post adaptor will be in the box, with the box! should ship out thrusday, or late tomorrow night. depends on what happens with the ICON.wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
June 13, 200718 yr Author john, the side post adaptor will be in the box, with the box! should ship out thrusday, or late tomorrow night. depends on what happens with the ICON.wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee awesomeIs there gonna be a tracking #? If not, that's fine just let me know when you ship it so I have an idea of when it will arrive. Thanks again,-John
June 13, 200718 yr Author components are just a separate tweeter and woofer with a crossover. one of the positives of comps are you can place the tweeter whereever the heck you want them to get hte best sound stage.ok, I already have tweets in the A-pillar kinda aiming towards the window slightly, so I could just use that 'pod' for the install? I'm definitely gonna have to research front components as much as I did subwoofers -John
June 13, 200718 yr components are just a separate tweeter and woofer with a crossover. one of the positives of comps are you can place the tweeter whereever the heck you want them to get hte best sound stage.ok, I already have tweets in the A-pillar kinda aiming towards the window slightly, so I could just use that 'pod' for the install? I'm definitely gonna have to research front components as much as I did subwoofers -Johnyes. you can put them there. imo its better to do more research on the components than the sub...takes up more of the frequency range.
June 13, 200718 yr Author yes. you can put them there. imo its better to do more research on the components than the sub...takes up more of the frequency range.I know, I'm just saying I used to be close-minded on subs and I thought big names like JL Audio were the best out there. But when I started reading and found this site, I now know otherwise. It just takes a while to get a full understanding of everything...-John
June 13, 200718 yr yes. you can put them there. imo its better to do more research on the components than the sub...takes up more of the frequency range.I know, I'm just saying I used to be close-minded on subs and I thought big names like JL Audio were the best out there. But when I started reading and found this site, I now know otherwise. It just takes a while to get a full understanding of everything...-Johngood good im glad you're researching. RESEAAAAAAARCH!!!!
June 13, 200718 yr john, the side post adaptor will be in the box, with the box! should ship out thrusday, or late tomorrow night. depends on what happens with the ICON.wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee awesomeIs there gonna be a tracking #? If not, that's fine just let me know when you ship it so I have an idea of when it will arrive. Thanks again,-Johnyep, you'll have a tracking number bro. just waiting on the ICON to get here to make sure of fitment. at that time, i'll hit you up with a pm and we can discuss anythign that needs to be done. afterwhich, it's boxed box and shipped to you bro!wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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