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  9. Posted

    Hey guys, my friend is looking to spend about $600 on a new setup. Looking to get opinions on what i've came up with so far.. Sub - SSA Dcon 10". Sub box will be custom ported@32hz hoping no much more than $80. Amp kit will be like $80.. Comps will be MB Quart ONX216 which are $110 on woofersetc.. Now i need a 4ch or 5ch that will sufficiently power the comps and sub and needs to be under $200, but if i have to and if necessary, i'll go to $250 and throw in $50 for him for the amp.. Suggestions? His car is a 2008 Saturn Astra hatchback. He's just looking for a little low end and better, powered speakers than stock. Thanks

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    Whoops, didn't mean to put the p99rs.. The head unit i will be getting will most likely be a Pioneer Deh-880PRS. Nowhere near the expense of the p99rs.. But so yea i kind of would rather go with 2 subs, over one. If i happen to go with dual 12"xcons, i would simply get a 2000 watt amp. but man does 1500 and 2000wrms seem like overkill for my preferably SQ setup. But then again, i always can adjust gains.

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  11. Posted

    Couldn't agree more that you won't want your tweets on axis. I'm also confused by your goals. A single 8" sub in a sealed box can over power stock drivers EASY.

    I disagree about the 8. It may overpower stock speakers playing at a reasonable, non-distorted level but not if they're blasting. I've heard stocks keep up with a an HDC ported until almost max volume. It sounded bad but you could hear it over the bass.

    And to the op, cone area is your friend. 2 12"s ported can surprise you if you've never heard anything like it before.

    Say i go 2 12" xcons ported, i do feel like they woulod be superrrr loud. I could tune at like 28hz and i know i can always EQ it. But more power would be required as well.. 12" Flatlynes would only require 1500rms if not that, how much better is the SQ with the IA's over the Xcon's, ported..? I'm just really torn between the subs, haven't had a chance to demo any at all, but have read A LOT over the past few years.

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    Couldn't agree more that you won't want your tweets on axis. I'm also confused by your goals. A single 8" sub in a sealed box can over power stock drivers EASY.

    I am aiming for the best possible SQ i can get from this setup. I don't want to sit here and say i want a SQ system, that "also will get loud when needed", because i generally won't be trying to impress people with the output capabilities of my setup, rather than the imaging and staging and overall of how good it will sound. The 2 10" w6's i had, i guess i'd say got about a little less than half loud of what i want my next to sound like, but that's at max volume i'd be playing them.. And that was with stock speakers and no power to them. With power going to my new front stage i'm sure it's going to be a lot louder and more clear, reason why i feel i should go with 2 12's or a 15. I know a lot of factors will determine the end result and i'll have a lot of EQing and tweaking to achieve the sound i want. I suppose i would like to get feedback on how good each of these subs sound if anyone has heard them in person. I do want to save as much space as possible though, and i've heard the LMS-R has amazing low end in sealed boxes, but the upper end not so good? I'd like a comparison between each sub vs the other.. I'm really intrigued buy the IA Flatlynes as well, but the Xcons have always been favorite. Sealed/ported and properly built boxes will also be major factors, and i know each of these subs i feel like i'll love, but i want to see if there are people who have opinions on any and feel if that sub would exceed vs the other.

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    I wouldnt run the tweeters on axis in the a-pillars. More than likely they will be much louder due to the fact that the path length will be much shorter than the midrange and midbass speaker. You will certainly have to test placement of the tweeter and find the sweet spot. You will more than likely need a heavy dose of T/A to get the soundstage and imaging right. Do you have a T/A processor? If you do not have a good processor you may want to consider running the midrange and tweeter in the kickpanel and the midbass in the door. This mounting option has more potential to image and have a good soundstage than what a-pillar mounting the tweeter does.

    I have a JL Audio 13w6 and it sounds very good. Definitely is not a SPL subwoofer, SQ for sure. From my experience, generally, a 15" ported will be louder than two 12" sealed. But that is very dependent on the drivers being tested and a boat load of other things. If you want to go sealed check out the Fi Q with the high QTS option. If you have the room for a 15" ported than you have the room for two 12" ported. I would go with two 12" ported over a single 15" ported. Again this is based off of my experiences, I had both.

    Reason for thinking of running the tweets there, would be because i have read that midbass in the doors can be good, but even with a lot of deadener, might still get rattles. T/A processor i'm hoping to pick up first, would be a Pioneer Dex-P99rs.

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  14. Posted

    Finally getting all the pieces together for my build. The only missing piece(s) to the puzzle is the subwoofer(s). I will be attempting to go with a 3-way fully active front stage which will consist of Scanspeak D2004/6020 tweets, Dayton RS75-4 midranges and Peerless 830883 Midbasses powered by either a JL XD600/6 or Sundown sax100.4&125.2 ... I'm not necessarily going for a strictly SQ setup, but i am trying to build a well balanced and accurate system. With my tweets on-axis in the a-pillars and midrange/midbass in the kicks, along with plenty of eqing, i hope to achieve quite good imaging for everyday listening. I want to keep this system for a very long time and enjoy it to the fullest.. Now my previous systems consisted of stock speakers and horribly tuned enclosures. I believe I've never experienced real lows. I listen to mainly rap, hip-hop and r&b, so i do want the lows to be there, yet not over excessive and exaggerated.. I've had 2 JL Audio 10w6v2's in a sealed box thrown in my HUGE trunk with no sound deadening whatsoever and it somewhat didn't over power my stock speakers. So i guess i'm looking for something pretty louder than that. I initially intended to get one sub, 12 ported or 15sealed/ported, but i came to realize i can always turn the volume down and EQ it to my preference because i didn't want the subs to be really loud and i'd rather have the extra headroom rather than not to. And i want to be able to have good low extension at low volumes.. So here are the few subs i've been deciding between.... SSA Xcon, TC Sounds LMS-R, IA Flatlyne, FI Q. All about the same price range. I have about 4 cubes or so to work with. All will be either powered by 1200-1500 rms Thinking 1 15" Xcon@29hz vs 2 12"LMS-R sealed vs 2 12" FI Q's sealed vs 2 12" IA Flatlynes either ported@28hz or thought A LOT about doing an infinite baffle with these with about 600rms. But i'm not sure how the output will be with them IB, but read a lot on IB and it's supposed to be SQ heaven, when properly done. I know there are many deciding factors but i'm just torn between these subs. I want the best accuracy, tonality and transient response out of either subs.. I plan on deadening the car very well and electrical will be upgraded. Hopefully some of you guys have heard any of these subs and can offer some advice.. I'm just a 20yr old who loves and appreciates the music i listen to ! Thanks. :woot:

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  17. Posted

    Okay so i have been looking at a few tweets and woofers that can possibly work for me.

    Tweeters: Scan Speak 7100; 602010. Peerless 830987; 810921

    Woofers: Seas P18RNXP; L18 (H1224), Usher 8945P, TangBand W6-1721, Dayton RS180

    Read some reviews on each of these, and tried to find some tweets that work well on the lower end and all around good woofers. Let me know what you guys think. This isn't a narrowed down list but just a starting point i suppose. A few of the tweets prices vary from high to low. But i am prepared to pay more for better performance. Considering that i would install them all correctly. lol

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  19. Posted

    Okay well i actually would be demoing my car probably have the volume on the head unit like 3/4 up.. And i wouldn't want to mess up the full ranges if they'd be sensitive at high volumes.. As for some 1" tweeters then, i would still make pods and try to aim them on-axis . Now how about tweeters that can play lower? As for crossovers, should i be using the head unit as the crossover, that's if it were a dex-p99rs or deh-p800prs ? With the head unit i might just go big and get the dex. So later on i can run fully active with it.

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  20. Posted

    I was looking at a 3" tangband full range. The full range and midbass woofer idea is starting to sound like the best for me. But there are so many to choose from. What's a good full range that can play high and play midrange? And a good midbass 7" woofer ? Aiming the full range on axis, in the pillars, is what i'm thinking of doing. But instead of aiming the drivers side to myself and passenger to passenger side, would it be better to aim the pass. to me and the drivers side to pass. side? Or as long as they are both aiming correctly and directly? There are literally so many drivers to choose from. And i don't know what to look for as far as most of the specs go.

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  21. Posted

    Okay so i can build kicks for a 2 way. Or should i have the woofer in the door and tweeter in the pillar? Biggest woofer anywhere would be 7". I don't know which size midbass/midrange would be best, and tweeter. I'm guessing a 6.5 would be best for midrange/bass. I don't want to lack in either range. My goals are to have amazing sound, that's why i considered 3-way active. I don't just want some highs to keep up with my subs. But when i ditch the subs, or if i even go with them, i want to eventually go 3-way active and get a real small SQ subwoofer with minimal power. Eventually want to have an all out sq system. I'm not sure what to mention, how bout some questions to answer?

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    95Honda, Yea i was also reading a lot about going 3-way active with subs as well. Because with 12" xcons, the midbass isn't going to be too noticeable? I need comps that are going to keep up with these but sound great as well, if i ever decide to drop one sub or anything. I do want the midbass to be noticeable though. I just went to that link you provided and there's a lot to read - In which i will tonight. lol But if going with DIY drivers is my best and cheapest bet, rather than dropping a grand on Dynaudios that might sound the same if not worse? I know it's all in the install. But so yea if nobody minds, i'd like some help with choosing some DIY drivers. Partsexpress, madisound? There are many drivers on madisound. I want a tweeter that isn't harsh, can get loud but be very detailed. I want some good midbass, but don't want to get a 7" woofer that lacks midrange? I can build pods for some 4" tweets. I only listen to rap, for the most part. BUT getting more and more into sound quality and wanting to get the most out of a system, i want my music to feel alive and have emotion that when people get in my car, including myself, they don't want to get out. And i'm going to start listening to some more music with high quality and better recordings to get the sound i want. I am willing to spend more, but for now i would say a $1000 for front stage drivers.

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  25. Posted

    Well, I was initially PLANNING on doing a 3-way active setup. I was set on getting some 362 dynaudios and a pioneer dex-p99rs and maybe a 100.4 and 125.2 ... BUT i don't have too much experience with comps and on another forum I was suggested to try out some 2-ways before jumping active. I know it will take alot of tuning and time etc. I was up for the challenge no problem. But due to lack of experience with it I decided to just take it a little slow I suppose. So I narrowed my expenses down some and was looking at an "easier, more simple" system. Now I plan to get a deh-800. I need to go listen but I'm basing my purchase of comps on alot of research and reviews about each I chose. Believe me, I do want to try active still, but I don't wanna f_ck up. Lol I don't know how hard it will actually be

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