Robert.Metzel

Made a video to show everyone whats its doing. The amp has been hooked up and running fine for a couple weeks now. Out of no where the amp starts cutting in and out today. When it does, it goes into protect mode. I checked every wire from the battery back and all are good. I even pulled the headunit and checked all connections there too. So here is what happens: Amp cutting in and out while I was running errands today. So I turned the radio off until I go home. When I got home I pulled out all my tools and DMM and checked everything. All is well. But now, the amp is on, not in protect mode, and I get zero output to the subs. Yes, I checked the subs wiring too. I noticed when I lightly tap on the amps case it goes into protect mode. So I pulled the amp out and opened the case thinking maybe a loose wire. Nope. No wires at all, everything goes straight to the board. Everything looked fine to me too. I didn't see anything bent or broken. Hooked it back up and its still doing the same thing. Finally, as you will see in the video, after a few firmer taps it stays in protect mode and pushes out little power surges to the subs making them move just a hair. You should be able to hear that in the video. If you look when it goes and stays in protect mode near the end you can see a little spark shoot out near the speaker wires at 2:27. There were no loose wire strands sticking out at all to cause a short. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opTmJhHKQ70

Checking about the warranty but I doubt it. I'm sure they will say user error. And I am not sure who db-r is? I tried searching for that user name and came up blank.

Awesome video!

Nice dance moves mister water bottle! I was doing this the other day but with a full can on Mt. Dew on the roof. Flex is sweet, but crap at the same time. haha

That's kinda what I was leaning towards after thinking about it after I posted. My current unit is just a POS Jensen Screen. I only bought it because scrolling through my iPod is cumbersome an album or artist at a time. 5700+ songs, 586 Artist, etc..... It does act buggy once in a while by freezing up or I hit the back button to restart a song and it pauses the song or does nothing at all. Worst 300 I ever spent in my life! I'll swap heads out with another pioneer I have here and see if that clears it up. I didn't notice on my old temp setup as the amp didn't have a gain knob. You would just select 0db, -6db. -12db, etc and that's how you set the power. Hope this fixes the problem. Thanks for the reply!

I have a Soundstream RUB 1600 watt amp wire at 1 ohm. When I set my gains I used the typical 50hz, sub wires disconnected, etc... I set the voltage to 40 volts on the nuts. Hooked everything back up and let er rip. Sounds fine. Well I finally got around to mounting the amp and cleaning up the wires. Before I did that though I double checked my gains. Voltage was at 47 volts? What would cause it to rise like that? I used the same tone as before. So I have been checking it off and on for the last couple days and sure enough, volts keep rising up even the the gain knob hasn't been touched. Any idea on why it would do this? I've checked everything from the battery back and everything is secure and tight. Could the amp be fubar for some reason? Its brand new and only been running for around week now? It has also made what sounds like thunder today. It did it when I was leaving the golf course. I had it on volume 10 and the bass sound like low rumbling? Song was Black Eye Pea's Boom Boom Pow, at the very start of the song when the actual bass line and vocals start. ( as opposed to the intro that has a few rumbling spots ) The song sounded super clean when I got to the course. And off but on topic: My amp has a switch for .2v-2v and 2v-8v. When in the .2-2v setting the gain knob barely gets turned to hit 40 volts, but in the 2-8 setting I have to turn it up a little passed 3/4's to hit 40 volts. Is one setting better then the other? Or does it not matter as long as its hitting 40 volts. I couldn't hear a difference between the 2. I have 2 volt preouts. Pic of the switch:

I hear you! I'm from Chicago and I now live in a tiny hick town in the middle of Wisconsin. Came here for college when I was 25. I have since had a kid and now there is no going back since his mom and I don't get along anymore and separated. I can't leave my little man behind. So now I pretty much just work and sit home. If you don't hunt, fish, wear camo, drive a beat-up truck, and get drunk every night you are an outcast! lol Especially me since I have a system, and I'm a Cubs and Bears fan and proudly show it. I get heckled every time I go out by some jackass for reppin those teams via a shirt or hat. I mostly think they don't like me because I am educated, own my own business, and have all my teeth!

Fi SSD 15. 199.99 plus shipping. 800 rms. Ported box @ 30 hz would rock!

That sucks man! Any chance insurance will cover it? My policy came with additional 10,000 coverage for any items in the car. That's one of the first things I looked for because of all the business stuff I travel with. Plus personal items of course.

You could use normal coarse thread sheet rock screws. Or what I like to use are t-nuts and security screws. Much stronger and it lets you take the sub in and out without drilling new holes.

So your saying this Fi Q12 couldn't reach 140 db? No, I'm saying you picked the wrong woofer to chase numbers with. I never said anything about not being able to do it. Good luck, though. My buddy has 2 15 Qs on 2200rms and was doing 143s. I'd be very impressed to see a single 12 do 140s. Again, it all depends on the install and the vehicle its in. 1 12 in a sealed up trunk, probably not. But then again look at the thread with the guy running 2 SA-12's doing 150s! So you never know. 1-12 in a pick-up truck, very do able. Look at what Im Hung's buddy did with a box tuned low and voltage issues. While I think its cool when people put up big numbers, I am far more impressed when someone pulls it off from a trunk in a 4 door car or an suv. No offense intended to anyone, but who couldn't get loud in a crx or a truck. Hell the TL is only 3 1/2 feet away! lol

x2 but that's just personal opinion. I'll never understand the people that drop 30k+ into a setup that plays 1 tone. But to each their own! I like loud, but only if it sounds good doing it. And spl depends on way to many things. Its all about the build and what vehicle its going into.

I am in the same boat as you. Looking around at cheap component sets. I figure just about any set would sound better then my stock speakers. So I'm tuning in to this thread. These are what I am looking at: Reference 6820cs I have stock 6x8's in the doors, and I have already applied deadener to them. Hoping to just swap them out for now until I can build the doors out.

Sweet 1st gen Box and glad everything was ok!

x2 plus ballgasms.... who doesn't like the feeling of their testicles dancing around at 140+ db @ 30hz?

Need to bolt the box down because the flex is causing it to walk around the back of the cargo bay. Picked up brackets last night. So this week its finish tucking wires, mounting the amp, and bolting the box down. Still saving for some components! 0 mid-bass right now!

I had the same thing happen when my 2 ssd 12's came in one big box. Guy was handing it to me saying how heavy it was. Big built guy too. I said its only 54 pounds dude... man up. lol He was so doing the waddle as he struggled up the driveway. So funny!

haha! Looks that way cause the FPS on the blackberry suck. The window moves in and out so fast. Hope the JVC will do a better job of catching it.

Thanks Cableguy and yes Denim they are! Sound super clean and hit hard! Didn't think they would move that much air either in an SUV but they do. Hopefully I'll find that cord in the next few days and post a better video. Here is one more I took with the black berry that I posted in my build log. Playing just a plain bass track.

Quick video via my Black Berry playing a bass song. Camera picks up flex for crap. New video coming tomorrow after I change my JVC up.

Well I thought I would start a build log even though my stuff doesn't even come close to what most of you are doing. lol Anyways, build will consist of the following stuff: 1998 Ford Explorer Sport 2- SSD 12's dual 1 ohm Soundstream RUB1600.1 amp All Knuconceptz power/ ground wires 0 awg 12 awg speaker wire 250 amp alt Yellowtop under the hood Big 3 w/ 0 awg 40 CDL tiles from Don @ Sound Deadener Showdown just to tame the cargo area a bit. No front stage yet as I don't have the cash for them yet. I business partner has an alpine 5 channel amp with a center stage I can use when I do get the components. Not sure of the model though. Current system is an Orion 12 on 200 rms and the Explorer rattles pretty good already. Ill post a video of the baby flex from that 12 for fun in the next few days. haha So some pics of what I currently have installed and the gear going in. Orion 12, Obcon Box, Alpine amp.... Gets decently loud for what it is. Temp system while I saved up for all of the above. Alpine Amp New 2010 SSD 12's Stock Amp next to my buddies 2 channel RE amp I put in his car. Power wires, fuses, fuse holders, etc... Just came today. Crappy BB pic HAHA! I totally forgot how big KC's ANL fuse holders were.... And a pic of my little man Jasper. Just because he is the coolest dude in the world! From his 1st Birthday last month. I have a wedding to shoot this Saturday so Sunday I start installing the power wires. Waiting on the CDL tiles and the HO alternator so Ill probably do 2 of 3 of the Big 3 and just run the Alt to batt wire for now.. Plenty More pics to come as I tear up, put down, install, etc... Hope to start the box this weekend. Around 4 cubes after displacement. Subs firing up and port to the rear. Trying to save as much cargo space as I can by doing it that way. I haul around A LOT of camera gear for shoots so I need the space. Still might go sealed but I haven't decided. I had planned on getting current system metered before I pull it but no shops around here have TL. 2 have old condenser mics and the 3rd had no clue what kind they had but they said it was super accurate. + or - 10 db... Yeah not .1 db... 10 db's! I told him I'd be better off saving my $40 and just guessing the db's. Probably more accurate too! Won't be calling them again... haha

Finished the box yesterday and loaded up the subs this morning! Its is storming out right now so i didn't spend a ton of time out with it. Output at first was kinda weak and didn't seem any louder then my 12" Orion on 500 watts. Stood in the rain watching the cone when I noticed one was wired out of phase. So I pulled it, rewired it and stuck it back in. I totally agree with everyone that says these subs are under rated! Output is insane and damn these things move some air. At full tilt on music my eyes jump around so much! VERY happy I went with these subs! Video to come once the rain finally passes, which won't be for a few days.

On the 2009's I found out it's the on-off switch for the keyless entry system installed at the port. So its probably the same for the 2010. Made by Audiovox and its a factory install.

Does your car have remote start by chance? If it does its the kill switch for that.

These were taken with a Canon 5d and a Sigma 50mm macro. Here is a partial list of my gear I use. Have a lot more since this list and some upgrades on stuff. Bodies: Canon 40d w/ grip 2- Canon 5d w/ grip 1d Mark II Rebel XT w/ Grip IR Conversion AE-1 Program w/ several lenses Lenses: Tokina 12-24 f/4 Canon 17-40L Canon 50 1.8 Canon 50 1.4 Sigma 50 2.8 macro x2 Canon 85 1.8 Canon 24-70 2.8L Canon 70-200 2.8L Lighting Gear: 2- abr800 ring flashes 2- Vagabond II Battery packs 2- 30" Moon units w/ Mask sets 2- 56" Moon units w/ Diffusers 2- 20° Honeycomb Grids Numerous Gels for the ringflash Metz 44 flash Canon 430ex flash 2- Canon 580EX II flashes 2- Vivitar 285HV flashes 6- Cybersync Receivers 2- Cybersync Transmitters 4- 42" Wescott Umbrella's 4- 9' Manfrotto Light stands 2- Rosco Gel sets 3- Flash diffusers Fong Lightsphere II Color flash Gels Stability: 486RC2 Compact Ballhead Giottos M7001 ballhead Giottos MT-9360 Legs Bags: domke f1-x Lowepro backpack National Geo Medium should bag Computer: Dell Studio 540 Vista x64 2.33 GHz Quad core ( Q8200 ) 8 Gb ram 512 mb video card 640 GB internal HD 640 GB internal HD 160 GB External HD 1 TB External HD 2-2 TB External HD PS CS4 Lightroom 2.2 Lots of plugins and actions 22" widescreen LCD monitor 19" LCD for CS4 Palettes