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Thank you for link and info. I have heard and read about the big 3, but need to learn more. I will check out the link and plan on implementing this on my build. Thanks everyone for all the welcomes to the site.

Well, to be honest, i know very little about how and why a certain enclosure performs the way it does. I mentioned that i would be using a 1.75 cuft ported enclosure tuned to between 32 and 36hz because that is what is recommended for the sub. I would love to learn more about how to read the parameters of a particular subwoofer and make a custom box specifically for it. I have been doing some research, but it is still "sinking in to the brain" if you know what i mean. Since i have a trunk car, i was planning on having the subwoofer and port rear firing toward the back of the car. Does it make a difference which way the port is facing, ie. the side of the trunk or the back? Should i trust that the sub should be placed within a 1.75 cuft ported box just because that is what the website says? I am planning on having a shop build me a custom box for the woofer. I think that might be safer due to my poor wood working skills. It appears that i can have one built for about $125 from a dealer who sells primarily sundown audio gear. I have attempted box building before, i had a 15" AQ SD2.5, and i was not pleased with it even though i built it to the specs suggested by AQ. Most likely an error on my part during the build. What advice can you offer in this area? Thank you ahead of time for your input!

Thanks for all of your help Kevin. I will definately post some pics when it is complete.

First let me start off by saying that i am a huge fan of this forum. I have been snooping around for quite a while before i signed up to be a member. I am a big supporter of companies like Sundown Audio, SSA, IA, because i feel like it is a better product that is the underdog in the mainstream person's eye. I am ready for a new set-up because i down-sized to a 4 door honda civic from a larger SUV. I am looking for a single 12" subwoofer with good SPL that i can use in a daily driver application. I will be running the sub off of either a SAZ-1000d or the new SAX-1200d at either 1 ohm or 2ohms, whichever meets the subwoofer's specifications better. I am very interested in the SA-12, the Fi BL 12, and the SSA Icon 12. I would like to keep the ported box to around 2.5-3.0 Cuft afer all displacements. I am currently running Polk MM Components up front off of a Soundstream 125x2 amp. Just need that bass. I mostly listen to rap, but do enjoy metal every now and then. I am also open to other amplifier suggestions if you think something will better meet the demands of these subwoofers. I am running stock electrical. Help me make a decision that will best suit my needs. I want the best "bang" for the buck. Thank you and it is great to meet you guys.

Well that is a good question. I dont really know why i am tuning the box to 36 hz to be honest with everyone. The rep at SKAR audio said that he had the prototype in a ported enclosure tuned to 36hz and it sounded incredible. What kind of differences would i expect tuning the box to a lower hz like 32-33?? I appreciate your input

I will definately post up some pics. I am also interested to see how the SKAR subwoofers sound - haha.

Alright guys, well after all of the help i have made a decision on both the amplifier and the subwoofer. I am going with the Sundown SAX-1200D and the SKAR 12" Subwoofer. I am going to run the Sundown amp at 2 ohms, which should give me about 750 RMS to the 12". I think i am going to put it in a 1.75 CuFt ported enclosure tuned to about 36hz. I will keep yall in the loop on the way it sounds and if the sub meets my expectations. I just could not turn down the promo deal they have right now on that Woofer!!! I was able to wrap up a package deal on the amp and the sub. Thanks for all the help guys and i will see you around the forum. I appreciate everyone welcoming me to the site.

OK - i am either going with the SA12 or the SKAR 12" subwoofer. Both are rated at 600 rms. Do you think i am making a good choice in selecting one of these drivers and running it at 2 ohm off of a SAX-1200D? That would give me some future head rooom as well to run two woofers at 1 ohm total load to the amp? Thanks guys

All Preorders have been shipped and these woofer's are now actually in stock! if OP can wait a little bit, he can see what people have to say about them Also to the OP, are you willing to upgrade your front battery? or add a second battery to the rear? Do you know what your alternator specs are? I had to gain down my saz1500 when using it on my stock alt, or I'd have bad voltage drop... Just don't want you to spend a lot on something you can't fully take advantage of I am willing to upgrade my front battery. I am probably not willing to upgrade my alt, just because i dont really know how long i will have this car. I bought the civic mainly because i am traveling between atlanta and birmingham for work right now. I think i am going to go with the SAX-1200D amp. I think i am going to run it it at 2 ohms, so 750 watts RMS. My electrical should be fine with this wouldnt you think? This way, i will have the headroom later if i upgrade my electrical and run the amp at 1 ohm on multiple woofers. What do you think?

What are everyone's opinions on the new Skar Audio subwoofer that is out after reviewing the product info? Looks like a solid woofer and appears to be based on the same techonology that comprises the SA12. Give me some feedback

Its sounds like from reading the replies above that the SAZ amp would be recommended over the SAX series amp from Sundown. If it were your guys system, would you rather have the sundown or the AQ amp? Also, it looks like we have narrowed down the field to the Fi BL and the SA-12. To me, looking at the two woofers, it looks you get "more" woofer with the BL. I know that you are paying more, but not a whole lot. For some reason, i am just thinking i would get more output from it. What do yall think?????? I am kind of stuck on the single 12". i dont really want to spend the money on two woofers, and i am hoping that the single 12" will give me the output i am looking for. Keep the opinions coming and thank you.

I will definately take a look at the SA15. I am not sure i want to go the 15" route, but i will keep it in mind. I previously had an AQ SD2.5 15 and i just wasnt pleased. Do you think this is more comparable to the HDC3 15 than the SD2.5 15? Thanks for your response and input

Thank you for the welcome. You guys seem to have a wealth of knowledge. I am kind of leaning towards the BL, but i have heard great things about the SA-12. Thank you greatly for your input. SA12 is the best bang for your buck, at least that's what I see. There cheap, underrated, and everyone seems to love them. I currently have one sitting in my room, still haven't done any testing with it. Another thing that's nice with them is they like smaller enclosure sizes, so if storage is an issue then the sa12 may be the better route. Although I have an sa12 I haven't had the chance to listen to it yet, but I've ran ssa icons (latest model) in the past and they sounded awesome. The bass was tight, never muddy, punch in the gut feeling, and that was in a ported enclosure Currently I'm running a fi bl and the sq between the two is hard to notice, unless you have a trained ear Can't compare output though, as I had different enclosures and different size driver(s). Also if your on a budget, check out the for sale section, you can always get great deals on slightly used drivers. Not sure about your stock alternators amperage, but I think running 1000watts would be okay with a second battery, or just gain down a little bit (and down the road if your upgrade electrical, you can simply readjust your gain). Do you think the SA12 can take the 1000 - 1200 RMS daily and be safe? It is rated at 600 RMS right? I know people are pushing them much harder than that though with great results. I will definately check out the For Sale section. I have not checked that out yet. Should i feel safe purchasing used drivers from others on this site? Thanks man

Thank you for the welcome. You guys seem to have a wealth of knowledge. I am kind of leaning towards the BL, but i have heard great things about the SA-12. Thank you greatly for your input.