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patiently waiting for update pictures.

or a level 4 on your 1500 watts. and dont quote me on the DC made in USA, cant find any proof of that, my dealer told me this though.

IA LI 15 and im pretty sure the sundown coils are USA made, which from my reading is the impotant part you want made in america. i could be wrong. Get a DC Level 3 - Made in america and roughly ~200

i guess all is fair with a good warning. if you look at it like that. Ive just always been told growing up if you fail, you failed.

And this is simply not true. A company that doesnt communicate with a customer is a joke by any standards. Im beginning to see why some people think its okay for someone to do things such as him. You just dont know any better yourself... lol and what did the guy do "at his own risk" ???? Meaning he paid for the amp 'at his own risk' meaning SSA is not liable for what happens here. If someone gets fucked over, too bad their pucking loss. I had a minor issue at SMD. I got a bent 18 in a 'drawing' dude had it insured for 500 which would of covered the recone as the basket was bent (not alot mind you). Well he got the money from the 'drawing' and the insurance and I got a slightly bent woofer. Guy lied to me, went to a mod and lied to them before I took it there. But its whatever. Its why I dont visit there any more. J where the hell are you getting that i said SSA is liable? i never once said NOR implied that, i just dont think they should pucking advertise for a fraud, simple as that. you bought a sub from a person in a drawing, not a company, this guy owns TWO companies, he is not just some classifieds lurker anymore, this guy deals with a lot of peoples money and should be more responsible about it. period. you getting fucked on SMD has literally NOTHING to do with my point, at all. ill say it ONE more time. I DONT KNOW WHY SSA WILL WILLINGLY REPRESENT A SUB PAR COMPANY. Thats all im getting at with this rant, 2 plus 2 isnt equaling 4. EDIT: and you just said yourself that the admins shouldnt do anything about Kevin on this form? which is fine... but then you go on to say you wont visit SMD because there admins didnt get involved??? You know thats a hypocritical statement through and through

Try going to school first. Learn Some basic business practices. This fool STRAIGHT UP LIES. He revoked Donnies sale on ebay then said they were broken, then sold them to someone else. THAT IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL HORSHIT unacceptable by any kind of business stand point. simple slime ball move. period. that shit is black and white and can be read in ONE thread. Just about to say fuck this forum. Its a shame too, there are some actual smart people here i can learn a lot from. Just shady shit and i dont like supporting anything like that. SSA CANNOT THINK KEVIN HAS ACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES, YET THEY STILL ADVERTISE HIS COMPANY. DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL! Alright, you need to relax. I had been talking to Mark for a few weeks about removing Kevin/SKAR as we were taking some heat for his business practices. Now, we discussed it somewhat, and Kevin is now working to make right what went wrong. I have no problem dropping a company, we have done it a few times in the past. Kevin expressed to Mark that he understood he handled this very badly and now he is working on making it right. I am not defending Kevin, if you want to think of it this way, Kevin and his businesses here are on probation. If Mark and I were all about "DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL!" this site would be VERY VERY different and neither of us would be working full time day jobs. fair enough, I'm sorry i was letting my emotions do the typing last night. i think i made my point pretty clear though. You guys ARE advertising for him and ARE taking some heat, as you just stated, I was just curious what that "heat" is worth to the people running this board. Ya know? You are taking the risk by letting him continue, yet literally no one on this forum will take the risk to do business with him anymore. Just doesnt add up.

i never once said ban the guy. just take his fuckin massive banner down and quit advertising for a shady company. simple as that.

Try going to school first. Learn Some basic business practices. This fool STRAIGHT UP LIES. He revoked Donnies sale on ebay then said they were broken, then sold them to someone else. THAT IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL HORSHIT unacceptable by any kind of business stand point. simple slime ball move. period. that shit is black and white and can be read in ONE thread. Just about to say fuck this forum. Its a shame too, there are some actual smart people here i can learn a lot from. Just shady shit and i dont like supporting anything like that. SSA CANNOT THINK KEVIN HAS ACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES, YET THEY STILL ADVERTISE HIS COMPANY. DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL! hey I never said what Kevin did was okay, I am just against Donnie bashing SSA, as whole, bashing Kevin is understandable and I am not standing by what Kevin did at all, don't get me wrong. and the powers of SSA must have seen something in Kevin to let him continue under there name for what that is we don't know and it remains unseen, but it must be for the good! maybe Kevin will surprise us maybe I wish I was a fortune teller lol! and don't get me wrong SSA has a ton of knowledgeable people who are very smart don't let this action dictate your future experiences/interactions on this forum. let me put it this way. I have like 6 friends interested in getting into Car Audio after i put the system in my truck, they have asked me where i do my research and what not, I would be timid to suggest SSA for the fact that they might see Kevins vendor spot and buy something from 1800 then get fucked. Granted that this is far fetched, but SSA is and WILL lose credibility for supporting Kevin S/1800woofers. << -- starting at this guy

And this is simply not true. A company that doesnt communicate with a customer is a joke by any standards. Im beginning to see why some people think its okay for someone to do things such as him. You just dont know any better yourself... lol and what did the guy do "at his own risk" ????

Thats just the thing, there IS a pattern. If its not money i honestly do not see any other reason for SSA to continue supporting them. Why would they willfully put there name at risk for nothing?

Try going to school first. Learn Some basic business practices. This fool STRAIGHT UP LIES. He revoked Donnies sale on ebay then said they were broken, then sold them to someone else. THAT IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL HORSHIT unacceptable by any kind of business stand point. simple slime ball move. period. that shit is black and white and can be read in ONE thread. Just about to say fuck this forum. Its a shame too, there are some actual smart people here i can learn a lot from. Just shady shit and i dont like supporting anything like that. SSA CANNOT THINK KEVIN HAS ACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES, YET THEY STILL ADVERTISE HIS COMPANY. DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL!

i think i have to agree with donnie. letting him be on this forum as a supporting partner is a representation of said company. A company should not have to be baby sat, thats just a silly thing to say. "everyone needs a little guidance once in a while to get there life on track" Yeah if your a child or irresponsible. PERIOD. Not running two LARGE companies. I havent even been burned by Kevin. But the guy is probably dealing with lots of money coming in and out and has a lot to deal with, if he cant keep customers happy on a regular basis and then is allowed to continue advertising just makes me thinks there is something more behind it. Does Kevin pay to have his dealer spot or whatever? Money does make the world go 'round.

thats just dumb, stupid doo doo dumb. Not sure if these guys understand that kinda talk around here ROTF! EPIC!!!!! better? i just find it hard to believe when someone doesnt know about bay area rap/lingo. its like my dad knows who mac dre is, hes like 50 and white. If you dont have a andre/tech/dre cd in your car your a f-in square as far as my area is concerned. been listening to Andre Nickatina since i was 12. Havent stopped since. /Thread jack end.

more quality work from sefugi. dont ever stop my friend, your builds inspire me to take that little bit of extra time to do it right. im still cutting corners but your sons eclipse build changed my life. Thanks for sharing to everyone!

In house Alt casings i believe. kinda what i was thinking but i knew they already had CNC cases, guess they are cutting out the middle man...

beautiful. i heart machines. thats a hefty bill. gonna have to sell many many alternators to pay those off. Good Luck! what kind of parts will they be producing for you guys?

thats just dumb, stupid doo doo dumb.

i would really like to know whats going into this thing. can you even give a size of the woofer, not amount?? i wanna KNOW!!!! i located a shell for my pickup last night. 150 bucks, im stoked!!! Keep us posed!

awesome <-- inspired.

Sorry for the lack of description with kind of flat haha. I just mean that there is like no bass. Im not comparing it to a car with subs or anything but compared to cars ive ridden in with factory speakers and no drivers or anything just door speakers those just seem to have more bass and sound better. The rear seems to vibrate alot at certain frequencies. It could be distortion? I dont really no its not all songs and I dont think its at a real low frequency seems to be at upper mid maybe? Idk im not very knowledgable with this stuff. Im basically just trying to get a system with good overall sound quality nothing super crazy my musical preferance is mostly indie but some dubstep and rap. So because like you said no good options are available in 6x9 getting a 6.5 adapter would be good right? I was thinking adding better speakers that are amplified in the rear would add some bass without having to fabricate anything up front because I probly wouldnt be able to and for resale purposes. Like you said about the HU's 5w its pretty low so I was thinking an amp would be a must. Would adding comps to the rear and amplifying the type s's be good or is that a stupid idea? Like I said im no expert so im just looking for some help in deciding what to do i would leave the 6x9s as fill, kit kick panel pods and get a set of 6.5 components leave the 5.25s in the doors and get a four ch for your front stage. leave the 6x9s on deck power. if thats not enough get a 6.5 - 8" woofer in a tiny sealed box. mounted under the package tray... (rear deck/top of trunk) but i am nooooooo sq expert at all. just the approach i would take...

x2 leaning more toward the IA, i think it will handle your power better and possibly sound better. but if you want to run 750 watts then the SA15 for sure would be your best bet for output, in my opinion.

i love this thread with all my heart.

Is it going? As far as im concerned his reputation has been in the shitter since i started lurking car stereo forums. I would be PISSED waiting this long for anything, be it refund, package, or tracking number at least! This Kevin S guy is a joke and i REALLY dont think he should have a vendor space on this forum... Having him as a vendor kinda gives the impression that you condone his business. And when his business consistently having issues like this one here, its like uhhhh quit giving this guy advertisement to scam more people on your forum. I guess money talks.

Still having dim issues, need a voltage meter, alternator and bigger batteries up front and in rear... cleaned up a bit. yes the amp is just sitting there. waiting for the weather to clear up to make a amp rack and what not...

So i already want more power. how well would a hifonics brutus bxi2008d on .5 ohms? ill be running two. alt will be a second 220 on top of my stock alt, plus one batt up front and another by the amps. maybe two by the amps. has anyone had experience with them? i cant even get mine warm at 1 ohm right now... just kicking around ideas, as this would be my cheapest way to get around 4-5k rms. otherwise i gotta buy a big amp and thats lots of money. i want s Sundown 4500 but im just dreaming there. i can afford what im proposing... thinking about sayin screw it an getting the amp this week and trying it... lol. although i really should get the batt/alt power first... anyways think ill just fry the amps pronto trying to run em at .5? when i play my system loud i just turn it up for a minute to like show friends or to out do someone else. im never driving around just like full tilt, i dont think ive ever played a full song with my shit poundin, i just dont like to be that annoying to others i guess. so keep that in mind. thanks for the input!