ronrico418

How Bout RAW and controlled!................Whats wrong with that?.................Life begins at 150

We had a thread and it was closed - Please do not bring it up again - If it is only slight they are different and for some reason its a big ordeal if you want to share. I know how you feel but please just let it die.. There are similarities but they are different. Thanks and please do not make a new topic on this.

Great ,as alwayz, continued installalation updates and pics!!!

sounds like a great idea man.

IMO I would put subs as close together as possible so they may act as one. You can go all subs up and then one port back.....Just an idea

I must reiterate that I do believe that the BTL outperforms all other SPL specific subs and is truly an awesome product by the already legendary Fi. PLUS the fact they offer a daily and spl option on the BTL further enhances the SQ that a BTL does have considering the nature of the Beast. My point again is that so many people seem to overlook the incredible design of the Fi SSD and to me it seems to be a rookie mistake!!! Of course some people like Steve Meade need to do what he is doing and some applications straight up demand the BTL even if not for SPL comps. Just seems more people that should be using the SSD are gettin a step ahead of themselves. The Q also ROCKS with wonderful SQ and absolutely incredible SPL capabilities. Seems like so many people that could be enjoying their music more through the Q are steered away by the fact of it's description reading of SQ that they think it must not have the Bass they desire when in fact it's probably more woofer than they ever thought they could own in their lifetime. Again all this is just one mans opinion.

My good friend Joe Moreira who some of you SQ guys may know as the installer of Eddie DeJesus award winning Gary Biggs smashing Chevrolet S10 told me at SBN last weekend that he found some old pics of my vehicle he and I installed my system in with 34 10s 4 8s 2 4s and 2 tweets. We had many other mids and highs in that vehicle originally but discovered quickly that the system was so much better with only a single pair of splits. Jim do you know Joe Moreira? Here are a couple pics of Joe's latest build for Eddie DeJesus

Any pictures of this? You've got me curious now I do not have any pics a former systems. An unfortunate disaster ruined my pics and negatives in 1997 and I would have loved to have posted them on the internet when I was competing but the internet was not how we know it today in 1991. My good friend Joe Moreira who some of you SQ guys may know as the installer of Eddie DeJesus award winning Gary Biggs smashing Chevrolet S10 told me at SBN last weekend that he found some old pics of my vehicle he and I installed my system in with 34 10s 4 8s 2 4s and 2 tweets. We had many other mids and highs in that vehicle originally but discovered quickly that the system was so much better with only a single pair of splits. Jim do you know Joe Moreira? He and I go back over 20 years and used to run an install bay together in Tampa. I'll post a pic of Eddie's truck if you have not seen it. Eddie runs DLS and I promise if I close my eyes in that truck it will soothingly put me to sleep everytime. I know SQ....I choose SQPL..DA few, DA proud, THE CHOSEN. (Actual name of our stereo crew in the late 80s early 90s.) hehe Thought he was using SE's...could very well be wrong about that, though...I thought SX but I could be wrong too. Still point is made that SSD would fall right between SE and SX and that many a people skip around this WONDERFUL sub!

Sounds to me like your looking for SQPL not SPL. I hate SPL & I hate BTLs, even though BTLs are better than most any other SPL specific subs and for SPL applications that is what I would use (hell I have one now), but if you want a sound quality pressure level SQPL - which is what it sounds like to me that YOU want, then the SSD is AWESOME for that application! I sure do hope SQPL is a term that is allowed. I have had a SQ car and SPL car and know first hand that there are a few people that are BASS heads craving a quality insane level of volume and not a just a how LOUD can it get and who cares about how it sounds, kinda people.........Logand5 you are not in the latter category if what you said in your first post is accurate...YOU ARE THEN ONE OF MY CHOSEN FEW...Welcome to the club. The SSD should be used by more people. After hearing BTLs over and over I know some people will be impressed by their output, but they would never work for someone like me that wants SQPL. Just not gonna happen. It's to the point that even though I was one of the first people in the 150db club (1989) I ,Who LOVES da Bass wit a passion!!!!!!!!!!!! Does not care the first damn bit to hear the amazing Steve Meade's chit nor the incredible install of Chicken's caddy. Why cuz they have BTL's ...I already know how it's gonna sound. Hella LOUD Hella BANGIN' & missin' a HELLOVA lot of quality. I believe Steve Meade is a cool dude and wish I had a tenth the talent he does in the install dept but the BTL thing makes me wanna run cuz I know he's not gonna have the hellagreat SQPL I and a few others desire. The SSD with multiple drivers can be made to easily sound sooooooooooooooo much better along with more output (amplitude) with the same or less money, not to mention Q's, Havoc's, or even the Chaos. Probably a whole reason for a whole different thread but why do so many people skip by the incredible SSD. Do they just want to spend more money or assume it the SSD must not be that good since it costs less? What is Tommy McKinney running in Ho Problems? SX or XXX. Tommy is rightfully the KING OF BASS in a lot of peoples book. His BassRace legacy is with the SX..the closest sub to the SSD from the RE lineup IMO. WHY PEOPLE WHY is the SSD overlooked. From the same designer with his latest and greatest updates BASS BROTHERS looooook to the SSD.......It will set you free. PS Not saying there is not a place for the BTL but so many people just skip by the SSD like its some entry line sub. There is nothing entry level about a SSD. Open your eyes!!!! More peope should be running SSDs........Of course these are just one man's opinions!!!!!!!!!!! GL everybody and Lagan STAY ON THE RIGHT TRACK-----Dude you are there!

Personally I am a Sundown fan but in your application the RF at 1.33ohms mono should work best!

Are you in FLA? Let me know I'm in Ocala and can help you out!

There is another option. Kinetik makes a battery that has a 12 volt post on the side and a 16 volt post on top. You could ran a high or variable voltage voltage alt and run all your 12 volt car equipment off the side post safely...... Food for thought. Eliminates the need for stepdown! By the way whats up big boi!!!!!!?!?!?!?? Hit me back bro

What amp are you going to run? Any electrical upgrades? X-tra battery? HO Alt.? Big Three?

I see this old thread and think I have some SUNDOWN art so here it is Was going to use in my sig but was told it was to big by moderator so I crammed what I have now...

...for good measure. HEARD X2

If anyone lives near Ocala and would like a demo of a Havoc 15 or a BTL 15 Let me know through PM. I am off on WEDNESDAYS and SUNDAYS May sell one or the other just let me know. If you are going to be at SBN I can bring them to you!!!

I'll look for it kind of embarrasing cuz it even hurt me!!! Here's another of lil jon

Why don't you use SSDs or Qs with 4K watts? May have more enjoyable sound for daily

I'd definately go w/ 4

As for all the talk of the subs being the same or not I am sorry and take full responsibilities for my own misunderstandings. Please let it die. IF it were true I though it was ingenious. One line for custom orders and one fully loaded for dealers - no big deal. Didn't mean to start such a ruckus. AGAIN PLEASE LET THAT SUBJECT DIE Now on with the vids

I already retracted my statements and said I was wrong and misunderstood what I was told. Thanks...

I was wrong some similarities but not the same. I misunderstood. APRIL FOOLS I guess

Probably the price of an SSD plus copper coil since thats what it is.

I just called Scott of Fi and left a message so I'll get updated soon enough. If he's busy with travel from Daytona to Las Vegas and not able to get back with me I will straighten it out with Shawn Fleming when he gets off work today!

The Havoc and Q have different specs do they not? They have different motors do they not? I doubt thats true man. That is Fully loaded Fi version of their subs available to dealers. I'm sure you'll all find out the truth soon enough. Otherwise everyone lied to everyone. Dude I was just their and heard it from the whole crew. Youi can't make this stuff up. Are you sure that they didn't mean they are similar in performance and not in exact actual design. I specifically asked againn and again. The mayhem is a BTL full loaded with triple mag and daily option. Not similar. It's a dealers way of selling a BTL to a customer. The SSD is a Chaos and an incredible speaker that people pass by for some reason. More people shoud own the SSD's, Q's and their AA equivalents.