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So you mean have no rear door speakers at all? Or maybe just put the 6.5 woofer and forget the tweet in the rear?

Unfortunately I already have everything purchased. I understand your position about rear staging, but I am also using rear DVD headrest and is more so for that, plus I'm not a pure soundstage has to be directly up front as if I were at a live concert. I kinda like the presense of sound from all around. Also, with this JL amp if I were to bridge it can only be 4 ohm, and the comps are 2 ohm so that wouldn't work I don't think.

well the RTA and 6 channel amp was my idea...my car has 10 speaker setup, and figured if I ever wanted to use any of those locations I would have the extra channels to accommodate, or possibly maintain the stock 8" sub for possibly some mid bass duty. But honestly, Im a noob so most of this was impulse and lack of knowledge. So you think I should bypass the RTA? I just wanted to get it tuned as best as possible. As it stands my Infinity system has flaws and the rear doors are non existent. As for comps in the rear, it's mainly for the headrest DVD players, so the rear passengers can hear it better.

Thanks for clearing up some of my misconceptions. I have just heard people say 15's have a harder time keeping up with faster music...or something to that effect. (I like hip hop, classic rock, 80's/90's and getting into this dubstep (?) ...so a single 15 Gcon might satisfy my thirst? That would be the cheapest route.Thanks M5, definitely food for thought.

Thanks ou812, In the past I had two JL 12W3's, and felt they hit pretty good...running dedicated 300rms amps to each sub. Right now I have two 12" shallow mount Pioneer subs at 750rms. They sounded awesome when I first got them, but almost feel as if I may have burned a coil somewhere. Anyhow, I am actually going tomorrow to a shop and getting RE XXX 6.5 comps installed front and rear connected to a JL 600/6. (100 rms @ 2 ohm) Since I am using a stock Navigation head unit Im also having them connect an LCQ1 processor. While Im there I'm gonna have them tune everything with RTA and gonna get them to look at my subs and/or amp to see if there is anything wrong.

Single 12" or 15"? Xcon does look tempting.

Well, my box dimensions could go as big as: 45" W x 18" H x 14" D Maybe even higher or deeper, but would like some trunk space. Not sure what that comes out to in ft^3 I have never gone with a ported enclosure and only fear playing below tuning. I know the amp has sub sonic protection, but still worries me...am I over analyzing that?

Thanks Axe, although two Icons would be awesome it would be out of my price range. I was definitely considering two GCons, which would be just a tad more than a single Xcon...and a single Icon would save me even more. But I am just looking for my best option as this will most likely be my only upgrade for a long time.

Oh, also recommend minimum amp RMS I should be looking for with either setup. Thanks

I have two 12" Pioneer TS-SW3001 shallow mount subs...and they hit pretty darn hard! I went with the pioneer for the spec plays down to 20HZ and bought from amazon for ~ $110 each. Don't think just because its a shallow mount that it doesnt hold its weight!

Well I never did figure out the multimeter thing...so many options and not sure where to use and how to be safe...instructions were vague and Internet video tutorials were for the most part limited. So, I just fiddled around with the LOC and amp gains and I think I reigned it in a whole lot. Now I can play the low freq ranges without distortion and almost to ear pounding levels...think I can increase gain, but I am content for now. Thanks for the help and suggestions, I am definitely keeping possible GCons' on my wish list for the future.

Ok first off no flaming me please. My current setup is two 12" shallow mount Pioneer subs (sealed down firing) and a Hifonics Gladiator amp...wired 750rms @ 2 ohm. My problem is lately I've noticed a smell which I can only assume is voice coil, and I've been feeling like my output is not what it use to be. When I first had this installed it was hitting very hard and clean. My rear view mirror looked like it would fall off, and my ears would ring it was so low. Very clean, no bottoming or rattle and I loved it. But the guy who installed it set the gain by ear and I always thought he just turned knobs to appease me for whatever reason instead of setting where it should be set properly. Long story short, I get this odd burn smell (never smelled this before so only assume voice coil) and it seems like my low clean bass is muddied and missing at certain frequencies. Even a rattle, but pressing on the cone itself does not reveal any indication of probelms, and my amp seems ok? So I just don't know if its my subs or amp, or even flaw in the enclosure and am contemplating a change. Any thoughts as to what my problem could be, or how to check? I really like my shallow down firing setup as it saves space and looks nice (to me). But I want that deep hard hitting bass back! I am thinking two 12" GCons - probably sealed - rear firing, and am willing to sacrifice space but not my entire space. I would consider side to side would be about 45 inches, height and depth 14". Does this sound feesible for two 12" GCons? I notice the prefab enclosures sold here, but did not see a dual 12" sealed system, when ordering do they make it to custom size or just stock dimensions? Thanks for any help.

Im using stock Navigation unit that only has high level outputs, so Im also using a LOC...perhaps another kink in the chain?So I bought the multimeter, anyone suggest where I should be checking and even a "how to" as I've never done it before. I have an inch or two of snow coming down now so won't be able to check today, probably tomorrow. Thanks for the help guys, hope its an easy cheap fix.

Doh! ...order cancelled. Will hit autozone tomorrow. Why didn't I think of that. LoL

Thanks guys, just bought a multimeter from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3320-Auto-Ranging-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B000EVYGZA/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_2_P2FC

I will have to take it by a local installer to check as I have no instruments to check anything. I was looking at the enclosures sold on this site...but the dual ported 12" is a bit larger than I would like...and expensive. http://store.soundsolutionsaudio.com/categories/enclosures.html

Sorry I do not have any videos, and since my subwoofers are installed as down firing, it would be very hard to get a decent video of them in action.As for handling the lows? I think they handle the lows like most any other sub...my previous subs were JL W3's and some older Cerwin Vegas...so compared to most peopkle on this website, my experience is limited...but I love these shallow mounts. No regrets. I have been listening to Bass Mekanik and my subs handle it very well! ...almost too well. Ive been digging this CD lately, Mad Mike presents Pimpin Ass Bass. (I'll see if I can get a video when its not raining)

They look nice! and Sonic Electronix has a great price too! (Polks website says $280 each, which is insane.) I was looking at the JL shallow mount, but that is around $400+ for one...which is also insane so I went with the Pioneer shallow mounts. But yeah, the Polk's look nice. Just read as many user reviews as you can.

I found this site when I was browsing google pictures looking for anyone with a Hyundai Santa Fe trying to get an idea the kind of setup they were using and came across Mark Lafountain's hyundai build. While my setup is not even close in comparison, I found this site to be full of very knowledgable members in regards to car audio setup. Much great info here! I could tell you most anything about home theater, but when it comes to the car Im a noob. Some of this stuff goes above my head, but as with anything else its always fun to learn. As of now I do not own anything SSA, but sure looks tempting! Thanks guys.

you can port these subs, which does require a larger box but does give more output...even in a trunk im sure they'd sound fine.

Im running two 12" Pioneer TS-SW3001s4, and let me tell you they hit very nice. Didn't think a shallow mount would sound so good. Look at all the space! http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/gallery/album/629-2012-hyundai-santa-fe-ltd/