What venues/forums do u want to see DSS at

[What venues/forums do u want to see DSS at]

for car shows, go to the Organization's websites and look for 3x or higher point events and attend those.

 

Any and all 3x or higher events typically have the biggest turnouts.

[Question incriminator 20.1]

There are many ways to explain it, the most simple way is that audio amplifiers have set (user set for most car and pro audio) voltage gain.  This means that the amplifier will put out a fixed voltage for a varying impedance load.   The only problem is that the power supply has to work harder as you ask it to provided more current, and this usually ends up with a slight to large drop in voltage.  This why the power never ever really doubles as you halve impedance, it may come really close, but won't most of the time...

 

If anything, no amplifier will ever produce more than twice the power at half the impedance.   That simply can't happen in the operational bandwidth (audio range) the amplifier is intended to operate in... Some amps may limit output power (some JLs) and they may make you think that the amplifier is putting out the same power at all impedances, but in reality, they are just limiting the higher impedance output...

 

You mean lower, correct?

[Question incriminator 20.1]

I'm running a 14 volt system with three xs battery's my alternators are turned up to charge at 15.5 so electrical is not a problem.. I clamped my new 20.1 by itself and it puts over 2500+watts so if I run these amp independently at two ohms on each subs I will only get about 1000w on each sub

 

2 independent amps put out slightly more power than 2 strapped given same impedance.

 

2 dual 4 ohm subs. You can only wire to- 1 ohm or 4ohm logically.

 

If wired at 1ohm, that would be either 2 ohm per amp or 0.5ohm per amp strapped.

If wired for 4ohm strapped, that's 2 ohm per amp strapped or independent.

 

If you are trying to wire each amp at 0.5ohm, get different subs if you can't ever strap them.

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Equalizers

 

DEQ-1000

Frequency Selection:

15 Bands separated by 2/3 octave (25Hz, 40Hz, 63Hz, 100Hz, 160Hz, 250Hz, 400Hz, 630Hz,

1KHz, 1.6KHz , partials close , 6.3KHz , 4KHz, 10KHz, 16KHz) Mitigation

/ Enhancement: up to 12dB in steps of 0.5dB

Signal / Noise Ratio: >100 dB

Crosstalk (separation between channels): >85dB

THD: < 0.01%

Frequency Response: 15Hz to 23KHz (-3dB)

Maximum Level of Input Signal: 2.0V RMS

Maximum Level of Output Signal: 2.0V RMS

Input Impedance: 22K OHMS

Output Impedance: 330 OHMS

Operating Voltage: 8V to 16V DC

Maximum Consumption: 400mA

Dimensions (WXHXD): 7.6" x 1.7" x 4.72" 

Weight: 0.68lbs

 

Additional Functions:

Limiter with 6 levels of attenuation: (-3dB/ -6dB/ -9dB / -12dB / -15dB / -18dB)

Filter HPF (subsonic): (Fc = 30Hz / 40Hz / 50Hz / 60Hz / 70Hz / 80Hz) with attenuation of

24dB/ 8nd

Filter LPF: (Fc = 500Hz / 1KHz / of 1.5khz / 2KHz / partials close ) with attenuation of 12dB/ 8nd

screen Saver with VU

VU Bargraph leds with TI CLIP

Price- $229 shipped

 

Power Supplies

 

TEF-30A

Dual voltage Power Supply: automatic (127 / 220V AC)

Operational range 127V: 100 to 140V AC

Operational range 220V: 200 to 240V AC

Rated Current max. output: 30 Amps

Efficiency: 85% Consumption

Maximum Current Draw 127V: 5.6 Amps

Maximum Current Draw 220V: 4.0 Amps

Maximum Floatation at full load (30A @ 12.6V): < 3%

Input Fuse (internal): 10A, quick action

Dimensions (WxHxD): 6.54" x 2.05" x 5.71"

Weight: 2.36lbs

Price- $229 shipped

 

TEF-50A

Dual voltage Power Supply: automatic (127 / 220V AC)

Operational range 127V: 105 to 140V AC

Operational range 220V: 210 to 240V AC

Rated Current max. output: 50 Amps

Efficiency: 85% Consumption

Output Voltage (Selectable): 12.6/ 13.8v/ 14.4vDC

Maximum Current Draw 127V: 8.0 Amps

Maximum Current Draw 220V: 5.0 Amps

Maximum Floatation at full load (50A @ 12.6V): < 3%

Input Fuse (internal): 10A, quick action

Dimensions (WxHxD): 10.55" x 2.83" x 6.22"

Weight: 5.51lbs

Price- $339 shipped

 

TEF-100A

Dual voltage Power Supply: automatic (127 / 220V AC)

Operational range 127V: 105 to 140V AC

Operational range 220V: 190 to 240V AC

Rated Current max. output: 100 Amps

Efficiency: 85% Consumption

Output Voltage (Selectable): 12.6/ 13.8v/ 14.4vDC

Maximum Current Draw 127V: 16.5 Amps

Maximum Current Draw 220V: 12.8 Amps

Maximum Floatation at full load (100A @ 12.6V): < 3%

Protection Threshold against overload/ short outlet: 120A

Dimensions (WxHxD): 10.55" x 2.83" x 11.42"

Weight: 9.48lbs

Price- $449 shipped

 

TW Master/Slave

CHARACTERISTICS OF the TRANSMITTER (TW-MASTER):

Operational Range of Radio Frequency: 2.4GHz ISM band (2.404GHz to 2.476GHz)

Maximum Power of RF transmission: 20.2dBm (105mW)

Connectivity: Up to 4 receivers (Slave)

Input Impedance: 10K ohms audio (RCA) and 1K ohms (WIRE)

Maximum Level of audio input L/R (RCA): 2V RMS ( 8dBu)

Frequency Response: 10Hz to 22KHz (-1dB)

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): 0.01% the 1KHz

Signal/Noise Ratio: >90dB

Crosstalk (separation between channels): >80dB

Power supply Voltage: 10 to 16V DC

Maximum Consumption: 160mA @12.6

Consumption in Stand-by: 10mA

Protection: resettable thermal fuse (PPTC), internal protection against polarity reversal

Dimensions (WxHxD): 3.47: x 1.18" x 4.65" 

Weight: 0.22lbs

 

CHARACTERISTICS OF RECEIVER (TW-slave):

Operational Range of Radio Frequency: 2.4GHz ISM band (2.404GHz to 2.476GHz)

Maximum Power of RF transmission: 20.2dBm (105mW)

Output Impedance: 470 ohms audio

Output level of audio L/R: 2V RMS

Frequency Response: 10Hz to 22KHz (-1dB)

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): 0.01% the 1KHz

Signal/Noise Ratio: >90dB

Crosstalk (separation between channels): >80dB

Power supply Voltage: 10 to 16V DC

Nominal Consumption: 100mA @12.6

Consumption in Stand-by: 40mA

Protection: resettable thermal fuse (PPTC), internal protection against polarity reversal

Maximum Current output from remote: 250mA

Dimensions (WxHxD): 3.47" x 1.18" x 4.65" 

Weight: 0.22lbs

Price- $179 shipped

 

 

Additional Slave device-

Price- $94 shipped

 

Universal Antenna-

 

TFM1080i

The TFM 1080i Antenna has a universal application. It can be installed in any vehicle, secured by double-sided tape, developed with high performance, active circuitry that ensures clean reception, free of interference and noise. Great signal reception from AM and FM. Its design comes from meeting with the market trend, lightweight and discreet.

 

TFM 1080i antenna universal electronic windshield printed Rod 10.25"

SMD Technology amplified

8' 6" Cable from the antenna

Connector in brass surface treated to eliminate oxidation

Red LED

Connection PLUG DIN

Universal Application, can be installed in any vehicle

Price- $19 shipped

 

Voltmeters-

 

VTR-1200

Innovative Digital Voltmeter

Unique design, lightweight, transparent, functional and practical; very easy to be installed.

Displaying BLUE showing the mark of innovation that TARAMPS provides to its consumers.

For its connection, the connector system is detachable facilitating ease of installation.

 

Technical Data:

Voltage Range: 10.2 to 27V DC

Maximum Current output remote (OUT) 650mA

Maximum current Consumption: 60mA 

Dimensions: 4.72" X 3.47" X 1.18"

Weight: 0.22lbs

Price- $59 shipped

 

For RCA Cables and T-Line High Voltage amps(115v-390vDC), contact shizzzon@gmail.com for custom price quote.

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TS Series

This line of amplifiers come in 2 or 4 channels. These amps come in 1ohm or 2ohm stability models and all ratings below are of 1ohm model. Expect slightly higher efficiency with 2ohm models.

All amps in the TS line use FIXED Crossover points.

Power supply range- 10v-16vDC

 

T1300x2

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.45%THD

2x780w @1/2ohm

2x468w @2/4ohm / 1x1559w @2/4ohm

2x257w @4/8ohm / 1x935w @4/8ohm

1x514w @8/16ohm

Frequency Range- 15Hz - 38KHz

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Efficiency- 80%

Power Supply- 9vDC minimum

Bass Boost

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 7.68" x 2.2" x 12,2"

Weight: 4.87lbs

Wire input adapter- Optional $20 (6awg to 1/0), not included

Price- $359 shipped

 

T1200x4

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.5%THD

4x360w @1/2ohm

4x237w @2/4ohm / 2x720w @2/4ohm

4x130w @4/8ohm / 2x474w @4/8ohm

2x260w @8/16ohm

Frequency Range- 20Hz - 30KHz

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Efficiency- 80%

Bass Boost

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 7.68" x 2.2" x 14.25"

Weight: 6.06lbs

Wire input adapter- Optional $20 (6awg to 1/0), not included

Price- $399 shipped

 

T800x4

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.5%THD

4x240w @1/2ohm

4x150w @2/4ohm / 2x480w @2/4ohm

4x72w @4/8ohm / 2x300w @4/8ohm

2x144w @8/16ohm

Frequency Range- 20Hz - 40KHz

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Efficiency- 78%

Bass Boost

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 7.68" x 2.2" x 12.44"

Weight: 5.18lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $319 shipped

 

T600x4

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.45%THD

4x180w @2ohm

4x108w @4ohm / 2x360w @4ohm

4x60w @8ohm / 2x216w @8ohm

2x120w @16ohm

Frequency Range- 10Hz - 40KHz

Ohm versions- 2 ohm only

Efficiency- 80%

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Power Supply- 9vDC minimum

Dimensions (WxHxD): 6.61" x 2.13" x 10.04"

Weight: 3.35lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $249 shipped

 

T400x4

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.05%THD

4x100w @2ohm

4x63w @4ohm / 2x200w @4ohm

2x126w @8ohm

Frequency Range- 20Hz - 30KHz

Ohm versions- 2 ohm only

Efficiency- 80%

HPF / LPF fixed at 90Hz

Power Supply- 8vDC minimum

Dimensions (WxHxD): 5.28" x 1.65" x  7.99"

Weight: 1.96lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $179 shipped

 

T150x2

Rated Measurement- 13.8v @0.05%THD

2x75w @2ohm

2x45w @4ohm / 1x150w @4ohm

2x25w @8ohm / 1x90w @8ohm

1x50w @16ohm

Frequency Range- 18Hz - 40KHz

Ohm versions- 2 ohm only

Efficiency- 80%

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 6.54" x 2.01" x 3.62"

Weight: 1.12lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $109 shipped

 

Crossovers

 

CRX2

Channels - 2

Subsonic Filter: Variable Bypass /20/60/80Hz (-24dB/ 8deg 4deg order Linkwitz-Riley )

Bass Boost: 0 to 10 dB (40Hz)

Low Pass Filter: Variable from 100Hz to 10KHz (-12dB/ 8deg 2deg order Butterworth)

High Pass Filter: Variable from 100Hz to 10KHz (-12dB/ 8deg 2deg order Butterworth)

Input Impedance: 27K ohms

Output Impedance: 440 ohms

Maximum Input L/R: 4.57 V RMS @ 15.4 dBu

Output Level L/R: 9.3 V RMS @ 21.6 dBu

Max. Output of the Pass Thru L/R: 9.3 V RMS @ 21.6 dBu

Frequency Response: (-1dB) of 10Hz to 100KHz

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): < 0.01% at 1KHz

Crosstalk (Separation between channels): >90dB

Power Supply Voltage: 10 to 16 VDC

Nominal Consumption: 250mA @ 12.6 Vdc

Protection: Reverse Polarity and short circuit

Dimensions (WxHxD): 6.18" x 1.65" x 5.71" 

Weight: 1.01lbs

Price- $134 shipped

 

CRX4

Electronic Crossover 12dB/ 8nd with 4 channels

 

LOW: With variable cut(LPF) from 45 to 275Hz and bass enhancement of 6dB ( "bass boost") adjustable from 20 to 65Hz

MID-LOW: With initial cut (HPF) variable from 25Hz to 140Hz and final cutting (LPF) variable from 300Hz to 7.5KHz

MID-HIGH: With initial cut (HPF) variable 200Hz to 4.6KHz and final cutting (LPF) variable of 1.2KHz to 12KHz

HIGH: With variable cut (HPF) of 550Hz to 12KHz

Individual level Controls for channel

Track LOW and MID-LOW mono, with independent inputs

Tracks HIGH AND MID-HIGH stereo, separated from inputs LOW and MID-LOW

Dimensions: 7.48" x 5.71" x 1.58" (L x W x H) 

Weight: 1.24lbs

Price- $159 shipped

 

CRX5 Plus

Quantity of channels - 4 + 1 Pass Thru

Track Pass Thru (R L)

Phase Selectable: 0/180 Degrees

Variable Level: -infinity to 6dB

Via Low (R L) Mono

Subsonic Filter: Selectable (Bypass 40/60/80Hz ) (-24dB/ 8nd) butterworth

Low Pass Filter: Variable from 100Hz to 2KHz (-12dB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Bass Boost: Variable 0 to 10 dB (40Hz)

Phase Selectable: 0/180 Degrees

Variable Level: -infinity to 10dB

Via Low Mid (R L) Mono

High Pass Filter: Variable from 30Hz to 600Hz (-12dB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Low Pass Filter: Variable from 600Hz to 10KHz (-12dB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Phase Selectable: 0/180 Degrees

Variable Level: -infinity to 10dB

Track High Mid (R and L) Stereo

High Pass Filter: Variable from 400Hz to 3KHz (-12dB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Low Pass Filter: Variable from 5KHz to 20KHz (-12DB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Phase Selectable: 0/180 Degrees

Variable Level: -infinity to 10dB

Track High (R and L) Stereo

High Pass Filter: Variable from 2KHz to 10KHz (-12dB/ 8nd Linkwitz-Riley )

Phase Selectable: 0/180 Degrees

Variable Level: -infinity to 10dB

Input Impedance: 10K Ohms

Output Impedance: 470 Ohms

Maximum Input Level R/L: 4.57 V RMS @ ( 15.4 dBu)

Maximum Level of Output R/L: 9.3 V RMS @ ( 21.6 dBu) 

Max Output Level of Pass Thru R/L: 9.3 V RMS @ ( 21.6 dBu)

Frequency Response: (-1dB) of 10Hz to 100KHz

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): < 0.01% at 1KHz

Crosstalk (separation between channels): >85dB

Power Supply Voltage: 10.5 to 16 VDC

Nominal Consumption: 420mA @ 12.6 Vdc

Protection: Inversion of Polarity

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.37" x 1.65" x 5.71" 

Weight: 1.54lbs

Price- $189 shipped

 

DTX 2.4s

Quantity of channels - 4

Filters: Per DSP, 24-bit/ 48KHz, (-24dB/ 8th) - 4TH order (Butterworth)

VIA LOW (L/R)

cut-off Frequency (HPF): 9 preset adjustments 20/25/30/35/40/45/50/55/60Hz

cut-off Frequency (LPF): 19 preset adjustments 60/70/80/90/100/110/125/140/160/180/200/225/250/280/320/360/400/450/500Hz

TRACK LOW MID (L/R)

cut-off Frequency (HPF): 11 preset adjustments 60/70/80/90/100/110/125/140/160/180/200Hz

cut-off Frequency (LPF): 25 preset adjustments 200/225/250/280/320/360/400/450/500/570/640/720/800/900/1K/1.1K/1.2K/1.4K/1.6K/1.8K/2K/2.2K/2.5K/2.8K/3.2KHz

TRACK HI MID (L/R)

cut-off Frequency (HPF): 21 preset adjustments 200/225/250/280/320/360/400/450/500/570/640/720/800/900/1K/1.1K/1.2K/1.4K/1.6K/1.8K/2KHz

cutoff Frequency (LPF): 9 preset adjustments 5.1K/5.7K/6.4K/7.2K/8.1K/9.1K/10K/11K/12KHz

VIA HIGH (L/R)

cut-off Frequency (HPF): 17 preset adjustments 2K/2.2K/2.5K/2.8K/3.2K/3.6K/4K/4.5K/5.1K/5.7K/6.4K/7.2K/8.1K/9.1K/10K/11K/12KHz

Input Impedance: 18K ohms

Output Impedance: 470 ohms

Maximum Input L/R: 4.0 V RMS @ ( 14 Dbu)

Maximum Level of Output L/R: 4.0 V RMS @ ( 14 dBu)

Frequency Response: 20Hz to 23KHz (-3dB)

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): < 0.01% at 1KHz

Signal / Noise Ratio: >90dB

Crosstalk (separation between channels): >80dB

Power Supply Voltage: 10 to 16 VDC

Nominal Consumption: 0.50A @ 12.6 Vdc

Protection: Reverse Polarity and short circuit

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.76" x 1.65" x 5.32"

Weight: 1.52lbs

Additional Functions: Adjustments of phase, gain, alignment and mute

Price- $229 shipped

[Taramp's Group Buy Amps, processors, etc...]

Taramp's Official Group Buy

 

The Group Buy will end February 16, 2014 11:59pm EST on a Sunday night.

 

We expect all orders to come in and ship out domestically between week one and two of March. We expect all orders to be delivered to customers in the Group Buy before SBN 2014 which is March 22-23, 2014.

 

All prices set below for immediate payment include shipping and is good for the lower 48 states. Shipping to Alaska, Hawaii, other territories of the US and all International orders are subject for custom shipping quotes which shall be done via contacting me at- shizzzon@gmail.com

 

All amplifiers (unless otherwise noted) come with custom Wire inputs used to run extra or larger cables to amp to prevent unwanted voltage drop.  

It IS POSSIBLE that some amps may not have their inputs manufactured on time(mid March).  If this happens, we will let you know and ship them out for free immediately after receiving them.  

We just want to let everyone know this just in case our deadline is not met.

 

Warranty coverage is 1yr from manufactured date.

 

We offer alternate warranty coverage that is described in this link-

Warranty Services Explained

 

And now, the pricing-

 

HD Series

Full Range SMD(Surface-Mounted Device) Technology based Class D amps.

These amps range from 5Hz-10HZ - 15KHz, Power rated at 0.3-0.5% THD and have on-board subsonic, low pass and bass boost* with efficiency ranges in the 72-78% range at low ohm stability range.

 

When placing your order, PLEASE put into text field which ohm stability version you wish to purchase!  The power rating next to the amp model will be it's capability at specified ohm version.

IE- 1,439w amp can be built for 1 or 2ohm rating.  Certain amps may or may not have additional ohm versions but ALL versions will be listed next to each amp.

Power supply range- 10.5v-16vDC

 

HD8000

9,595w @13.8v @0.5% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" X 2.56" X 19.57" 

Weight: 13.47lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 - 4/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $795 shipped

 

HD6500

7,796w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 18.82" 

Weight: 11.46lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $729 shipped

 

HD5000

5,997w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 17.6" 

Weight: 11.44lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $659 shipped

 

HD4000

4,798w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 14.76" 

Weight: 9.08lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $615 shipped

 

HD3000

3,598w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 11.34" 

Weight: 6.86lbs

Wire input adapter- 4awg to 1/0 terminal

Price- $469 shipped

 

HD2500

2,998w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 9.53" 

Weight: 5.73lbs

Wire input adapter- 4awg to 1/0 terminal

Price- $425 shipped

 

HD1600

1,919w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1, 2 or 4 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 9.53"

Weight: 5.52lbs

Wire input adapter- 6awg to 1/0 terminal

Price- $376 shipped

 

HD1200

1,439w @13.8v @0.3% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Dimensions (WxHxD): 9.02" x 2.56" x 8.08"

Weight: 4.37lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $332 shipped

 

HD800

959w @13.8v @0.5% THD

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Frequency Range- 20Hz - 30KHz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 7.68" x 2.2" x 7.91"

Weight: 3.53lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $295 shipped

 

HD400.4S

All ratings are at 0.02%THD at 13.8v

Ohm versions- 2 ohm only

4x100w @2Ω / 2x100w @2Ω + 1x200w @4Ω

4x60w @4Ω / 2x200w @4Ω / 2x60w @4Ω + 1x120w @8ohm

4x33w @8Ω / 2x120w @8Ω / 2x33w @8Ω + 1x66w @16ohm

Frequency Range- 10Hz - 38KHz

HPF / LPF Fixed @80Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD): 5.94" x 2.01" x 7.99"

Weight: 1.4lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $174 shipped

 

T Series

Besides the T500, this line is Taramp's extreme high output series with efficiency ranges from 71-89% at 1ohm(and at 1 or 2ohm on T500). These amps are also full range for use for bass and midbass\range as well going up to 5KHz with subsonic and low pass filter.

All power ratings based on 12.6v with power supply voltage range from 10.5-15.0v.

 

T20.2KW

20,200w @0.3%THD

23,800w @13.8v

Frequency Range- 5Hz - 5KHz

Ohm versions- 1 ohm only

Dimensions (WxHxD) - 11.46" x 2.2" x 28.74" 

Weight: 31.09lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 - 4/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $1829 shipped

 

T14.2KW

14,200w @0.3%THD

16,800w @13.8v

Frequency Range- 5Hz - 5KHz

Ohm versions- 1 ohm only

Dimensions (WxHxD) - 11.46" x 2.2" x 28.74"

Weight: 29.76lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 - 4/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $1659 shipped

 

T10.9KW

10,900w @0.3%THD

12,890w @13.8v

Frequency Range- 5Hz - 5KHz

Ohm versions- 1 ohm only

Dimensions (WxHxD) - 11.46" x 2.2" x 24.88"

Weight: 22.71lbs

Wire input adapter- Triple 1/0 - 4/0 Insert with Protective Insulation

Price- $1399 shipped

 

T500D

500w @0.5%THD

599w @13.8v

Frequency Range- 20Hz - 30KHz

Ohm versions- 1 or 2 ohm

Bass Boost

HPF / LPF fixed at 100Hz

Dimensions (WxHxD) - 8.27" x 6.61" x 2.05"

Weight: 2.65lbs

Wire input adapter- Unavailable

Price- $189 shipped

[Question incriminator 20.1]

Sounds like you shouldnt so dont.

 

There are more cons to pros for strapping and until some company starts utilizing protection features specifically for strapped applications, it's never necessary to strap amps.

[smd dd1, legit? or not]

I have no idea what you just said... 

 

IT looks like you said if you turn it up to 35 that 1\4 gain on amp it clips.. 

 

But if you lower the volume, it doesn't clip..

IF that's what you are saying.. then.. that's common sense but i am hoping you didn't mean that because i can't follow what you are saying.

[Bad news for the IA80.1]

As suggested, I'll start my post with the test's uncertainty. I've carefully calibrated each piece of equipment and considered every link in the chain and have come to a +/- 10,000w margin of error. That's close enough for a Podunk bass head like myself.

 

You guys keep saying "clamp" test. I assume half of you didn't even open the thread so I'll assume that half thinks it is a "clamp". Some of the rest of you might just be using that term to describe any "useless" end user's test of an amplifier's output. But for those who didn't read it or don't know, I used fixed resistance so that the voltage and current are in phase. As was mentioned...measuring voltage is pretty simple. The uncertainty of a simple (yet expensive) voltmeter is certainly nothing a hobbyist and others like him would consider bad enough to completely disregard any and all results.

With that said... I understand where you guys are coming from. I really do. But good lawd. How do you guys get out of bed in the morning before you validate the structural integrity of the floor using highly calibrated sonic something or another that's calibrated by something or another? Sheesh.

 

I realize that people use my results to make decisions or start arguments or whore them out. As such, I don't take them lightly; but at the same time... I don't get paid for this shit. This isn't my job and the onus of uncertainty is on the reader. Not me. I do the best with what I have and share my results. That's it. If you don't like or agree with my results, then do the damn tests yourself. Or ignore them. If you can't use the information in a responsible manner and with an appropriate number of grains of salt, then don't read them. Or if someone uses them, just say ol' T-Fade is a crackhead and move on with your life.

 

I'm just a dude. I'm not a scientist or engineer or even employed in the 12v industry. I'm an end user with more and better tools than most and I happen to be an amp whore. But I'm also an SPL competitor. So the only number that I *really* care about is the one on the TermLab. if I test an amp and get 3,000w, that power will do a certain number on the TermLab. If I test another amp and get 4,000w, that power will do a higher number on the TL. Consistently. Now.... does uncertainty matter here or does it matter that the "real" power is actually 1,473.245 watts and 1,732.436 watts? Nope. The one with more power was louder. Period. I've never, not once, tested an amp that made less power that was louder than another amp that made more. If my methods are so flawed and uncertainty so bad... that margin of error would certainly have shown itself by now because I do a TON of testing. But I suppose that could be coincidental. And I'm sure the TL not being calibrated just drives y'all nuts anyway.  

 

Anyway... the one thing I hate about my testing is not *knowing* the THD. It's objective and open to interpretation the way I do it by just showing and reading the wave. But most people with the faculties to log on to the internet can distinguish between round and square. People can judge for themselves. Because I promise... your subs will tell that tale.

 

While I'm on a roll with anecdotal evidence... I tested an amp recently using my "useless" method, flawed objectivity and incomplete or lack of understanding of metrology and the scientific method and shared my results with the owner. Then, he shared with me the end all, be all test report from the manufacturer of the amplifier using their trillion dollar machines and what'dya know? They were awfully similar. Within 3%. But hey... maybe I got lucky on that one.

 

About the OP... I'm sorry if you don't like the 80.1's output. I REtested it again today and got extremely similar 12v results. The only variable being +1vdc. The large disparity between "clean" and clipped is interesting. It makes a shit ton of power dirty (but useable). Your subs will hate you, but the power is there. I also tested it on 18v and the output scales up really well. Doesn't change my results or opinion of the amp from the original test, but it's nice to know my meter didn't catch any uncertainty gremlins overnight.

3% is absolutely unacceptable, I'm sure your ears can pick up the difference...

I was unaware people did "clamp tests" to measure the possible measure of power that can audibly be heard as a difference compared to the rating on the box.

 

IF that were true, then clamp tests would be the best method.

 

That means as along as the 9,600w amp can do +/- 2,000w, then it's fine.

That's your implication.  Seems irrational to me.

[THE EPIC MAGNETAR THREAD]

When you say you need to get them to make you some 65mm one way soft parts, that's specifically for the MMAG, correct?

 

And... is the finish production of the MMAG going to have 2 slugs?

 

And for me and all of us.. can you explain the difference between these-

 

MMAG vs Trident

[what sub is this]

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Anyone happen to know what this sub is?

 

It appears to be one that is driven by electrical power in the form of AC converted over to mechanical energy to produce a or a range of sound in the lower portion of the human audible spectrum.

 

That should narrow it down some.

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[Taramp's Q&A]

I don't think he got that model.

 

The TS400x4 is the one listed on the other site.

[Bad news for the IA80.1]

You are getting very close!  

 

Now the only part is to understand that you cannot negatively comment on the amp's proposed poor performance from the test because it's currently impossible to tell that from the test.  Especially since it was retested at 14.6v, with uncertainty, and jumped to over 10,000w.

 

Point is.. like u said, to give a general idea.

 

And the funny thing is, many people think, tought or believe the uncertainty tested result from test 1 is so far off from rated power that it's impossible to prove it's proper rating.

 

Nope.. 

I hope everyone has learned not to trust these tests as facts especially from the drama of this particular product.

[Bad news for the IA80.1]

 

 

Since everything was done wrong even though none of claim to have read the review, please enlighten us as to what he did wrong? .9 volts is not going to net you another 2k+ 

 

Like I said, I'll wait for the retest. 

But, but, but, it didn't do rated. It has to be flawed.... 

 

 

>> 

Because you disagree with them doesn't make you wrong or a douche but changing my words around makes you a douche dumbass. But they have proven themselves to be very knowledgable and are definitely not stupid people one bit.

Only reason I said you were a douche was because almost the whole time you were just fighting with everyone and being sarcastic instead of trying to understand their view.

I understand their view, and their concern is not legitimate in this case, in my opinion. The results may not be 100% precise, but they're accurate enough for the purpose they serve. If you require an amp test to be accurate within 10 watts for your personal use.... so be it. I don't.

 

You're the only one name calling here... 

 

 

So you think it's just barely off?

 

For one, the testing method is not consistent.  Like others have stated before, it's used for TROUBLESHOOTING, not for proper power measurement.

 

Second, did you know it was recently retested by the same person and now it's went fro 13.5 to 14.6v and gained 3,200w?  Now it's over 10k clipped.

 

People are "guessing" in that topic as to how much THD that is.. 

Bam- guessing.. 

 

that method of measuring power is for troubleshooting.  For accurate results, testing must be consistent.

 

The 2 tests are not consistent and not controlled due to human error and the lack of THD measurement.

 

You can't state you obtained a certain amount of power without other factors.

Tfade has not done anything wrong to defer his measurements.  

It's the lack of knowledge the audience has that concludes what they think they obtained from that information.

 

The same thing goes for many SMD devices as well but don't get me started on that.

 

So the measurements show a lack of output power..  Well.. that's not right..  

Test again.. now we have massively increased power... 

Lack of consistency and other measurements.

 

Tfade isn't trying to replace proper means of measuring with a low cost technique.

He's basically just trying to see if the equipment holds true to it's ratings.

 

The problem is messing with amps of this caliber is not easy because the higher the numbers go, the greater the inconsistency in his testing method.

 

The audience should take THAT as a big potential problem that is hard to control.

 

Even on low power, his method will net him closer to actual ratings but still not concrete enough because of a lack of tools and technique.

 

A power rating consists of a lot more than just 1 power rating with a voltage and a THD rating and not even those 3 things have been met in sync in one test yet.

 

Like i've said many times before, I defer to the manufacturer's testing themselves as they are more equipped for the task.

 

The second test was to prove a point... To get the 10k that people claim out of the amp, it was clipped to hell and back. The first test was "around" but not exactly at the THD rating that the manufacturer gives. 

 

I guess we have to throw something on an amp dyno to make you guys happy.. lol

 

 

 

So, all other tests done by anyone in this aspect was not to prove a point?

Every test is to prove a point however inaccurate it might be.

 

And nothing is making us unhappy.

 

I personally do not care about the output results because i know because of inaccuracies, the results are pointless.

That's why i do not comment on how good or bad so and so amp is.

 

What I may comment on, like i am here, is the lack of understanding people get from the numbers.

 

We can go about this this way too-

on SMD a while back, someone dyno'ed a 5kw amp on the burst setting and it put out over 9k.

 

Just that alone went on for weeks and weeks across forums about how awesome the amp is.. it can do 9k, etc.. 

In reality, that test is not to test output but headroom potential which is another debate that i am not a fan of either because the reasoning makes no sense.

 

Then many people across the forums finally begin to understand how worthless the test is when you see how an amplifier is actually used.

 

This is the same way..  It's going to take a while for it to dig in but once people understand that testing must be controlled on a level that is not done here, then results are for troubleshooting, not for obtaining the ratings themselves.

[Bad news for the IA80.1]

Since everything was done wrong even though none of claim to have read the review, please enlighten us as to what he did wrong? .9 volts is not going to net you another 2k+ 

 

Like I said, I'll wait for the retest. 

But, but, but, it didn't do rated. It has to be flawed.... 

 

 

Because you disagree with them doesn't make you wrong or a douche but changing my words around makes you a douche dumbass. But they have proven themselves to be very knowledgable and are definitely not stupid people one bit.

Only reason I said you were a douche was because almost the whole time you were just fighting with everyone and being sarcastic instead of trying to understand their view.

I understand their view, and their concern is not legitimate in this case, in my opinion. The results may not be 100% precise, but they're accurate enough for the purpose they serve. If you require an amp test to be accurate within 10 watts for your personal use.... so be it. I don't.

 

You're the only one name calling here... 

 

 

So you think it's just barely off?

 

For one, the testing method is not consistent.  Like others have stated before, it's used for TROUBLESHOOTING, not for proper power measurement.

 

Second, did you know it was recently retested by the same person and now it's went fro 13.5 to 14.6v and gained 3,200w?  Now it's over 10k clipped.

 

People are "guessing" in that topic as to how much THD that is.. 

Bam- guessing.. 

 

that method of measuring power is for troubleshooting.  For accurate results, testing must be consistent.

 

The 2 tests are not consistent and not controlled due to human error and the lack of THD measurement.

 

You can't state you obtained a certain amount of power without other factors.

Tfade has not done anything wrong to defer his measurements.  

It's the lack of knowledge the audience has that concludes what they think they obtained from that information.

 

The same thing goes for many SMD devices as well but don't get me started on that.

 

So the measurements show a lack of output power..  Well.. that's not right..  

Test again.. now we have massively increased power... 

Lack of consistency and other measurements.

 

Tfade isn't trying to replace proper means of measuring with a low cost technique.

He's basically just trying to see if the equipment holds true to it's ratings.

 

The problem is messing with amps of this caliber is not easy because the higher the numbers go, the greater the inconsistency in his testing method.

 

The audience should take THAT as a big potential problem that is hard to control.

 

Even on low power, his method will net him closer to actual ratings but still not concrete enough because of a lack of tools and technique.

 

A power rating consists of a lot more than just 1 power rating with a voltage and a THD rating and not even those 3 things have been met in sync in one test yet.

 

Like i've said many times before, I defer to the manufacturer's testing themselves as they are more equipped for the task.

[Taramp's Q&A]

Hd400.4s group buy pricing will be under 190 shipped

[THE EPIC MAGNETAR THREAD]

what is the current xmech potential of this proto?

[outter diameter for the hcca 15]

16.5"?  absolutely no way.. 

[outter diameter for the hcca 15]

Yea, the Massive Audio Hippo subs are the "largest subs" in their classified sizes that i've ever seen.

 

So large, that no other sub i know of can replace their cut out requirement.. and even the 15 isn't 15" or more in cut-out diameter.

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[Bad news for the IA80.1]

lol.. Nick?  no.. 

 

It sounds like you do not know IA well enough to say that.

 

But by you saying that.. it sounds easily like you care less what IA says in their upcoming retest just for the hell of it.

So i'm done.

[Bad news for the IA80.1]

you are still missing the point..... 

 

You keeping siding with his testing as being accurate.

 

Let me ask you a simple question.

 

Why would you trust a person in this hobby who loves it as much as anyone else to perform a test on an amp, and regardless of the results, believe the results over what the manufacturer is about to present?

[Taramp's Q&A]

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[Bad news for the IA80.1]

Since everything was done wrong even though none of claim to have read the review, please enlighten us as to what he did wrong? .9 volts is not going to net you another 2k+ 

 

Like I said, I'll wait for the retest. 

But, but, but, it didn't do rated. It has to be flawed.... 

 

 

But but but.. the owner said he will retest because all testing prior to marketing is correct and will retest.. 

However once he said that.. many people started bashing the "potential" for his other products to be flawed, etc.. 

 

I only trust the owner and\or companies who do this for a living.

 

If one person can be trusted to "fail" an amp publicly, then all companies might as well shut their businesses down because you know what they say..

The customer is always right...   

 

So professional testing must be pointless..  

 

We don't care about getting close

We, as a business community, care about doing it right.

 

Why would a business rely on a customer's test as the official ruling of their products potential.

 

That is the dumbest thing i've seen this year so far and that's pretty damn bad.

 

But keep supporting the "close testing".

We'll support professional test results.