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research is all done
going with the JBL Pro 1" pure titanium tweeters...they are raw replacement
elements so I have to get mounting plates machined
4 of them...2 up front and two in the back
190w rms per side
these for mid range http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=VWR126X
4 of these ....2 up front and 2 in the back
190w rms per side
these for mid basshttp://www.diysoundgroup.com/anarchy-woofer/anarchy.html
4 of them....2 in each door
280w rms per side
I am not putting mid bass in the rear...the doors will produce enough and I need the
room in the back to run the ports ( the build log will explain)
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I was educated by a guy once...he explained to me how the input sensitivity gain works
if the amplifier is rated at 100w rms you have to crank the gain to achieve this
and if you turn the gain down to half your output is 50 w rms.......and so on.....
and if a sub is rated 100w peak it will take that 100w rms
I told the guy he was very knowledgable and he should do this shit professionally
......he thought I was serious....LOL
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The real question is why 2 6.5's instead of an 8. 250Hz is EASY for most 8's.
there is a certain point on the door that I want to stay below and I want to push the midbass
as forward as possible and the dash is in the way of an 8" fitting
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I think two of these in each door will work nicely....LOTS of excursion
for a 6.5" woofer and a FS of 40.....and the XBL design has really tight sound
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found some
GR Research M165X woofer with XBL2 motor....X Max = 7.8mm one way
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If you are restricting yourself to dual 6.5" mids, and given your desire for high output, I think the Exodus Anarchy's would be worth a look. They are pretty easy to find used and while I don't think Exodus is selling them anymore someone else has resurrected them.the Titanium domes are $89 each plus shipping
I also found a 3" silk dome midrange transducers or the 4" DLS Scandinavia series mids
now all I got to do is decide on the mid bass....
going with two 6.5" in each door so 8ohm will work...keep the channels at 4ohm on each side
Any reason you wouldn't want to go with a single 8 per side?
it's just personal preference.....I like having multiple smaller mid bass
looking for something with high x max that can handle 50hz to 250hz preferably 8ohm
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the Titanium domes are $89 each plus shipping
I also found a 3" silk dome midrange transducers or the 4" DLS Scandinavia series mids
now all I got to do is decide on the mid bass....
going with two 6.5" in each door so 8ohm will work...keep the channels at 4ohm on each side
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found a supplier with JBL Pro 1" pure Titanium Domes...........going 3 way active on the front stage
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I just threw away a pair of old school titanium domes. Had no idea anyone would ever want them.
well that sucks.....I love the old JBL Diamond stamped titanium domes
I found a few pairs of the 8ohm home audio plate style but no 4ohm car style yet
just a thought... if I go active I'm gonna need more amplifiers...
my wife is gonna hate me....LOL
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I just spent the last couple hours searching e bay for seperates...
found a few interesting mids and mid bass but nothing tweeter wise
that interests me for a decent price
looking for something like the old school 1" Pure Titanium Domes
...the Focal Berylium tweeters are nice but so is the $1500 price tag...OUCH
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Maybe this will clear things up for the funky pup.
1 watt to a funky pup is like 10000000 watts to a DD Z. These are Chuck Norris’s choice, not for bass, but to replace the engines in all his WalkerTexasRangerMobile’s… 1 funky pup = 500 horses, 2 funky pups = 1500 horses, 3 funky pups = time travel. There was never an atomic bomb, there was 4 funky pups in a .25″ particle board sealed box. They stopped making funky pups because the warehouse they were stored was quickly shifting the earth’s magnetic field. As a result, most of the world’s funky pups are now stored in a secret underground warehouse below Santa Claus’s Elf sweatshop. Its not certain what exactly makes the funky pup’s so much better than everything that ever existed, but it is absolutely certain – THESE ARE THE BEST W00FERS EVER MADE BY MAN OR SPACE MONKEY!
LMFAO...
now that"s what I'm talking about....
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Don't confuse speaker price with speaker performance. Low end in price and low end in performance are two completely different things. There is most definitely a point of diminishing returns, and there are most definitely less expensive speakers that outperform higher priced speakers.
I have walked into a couple component sets that are comparable to much cheeper priced ones already
that's why I am taking my time with this purchase...if all fails I might have to get a couple more sets
of 660gti's...cause so far I have not come across anything more impressive as of yet
I can by amp those 660 x overs with a Bit 1 and I know I would be happy
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when Rockford Fosgate sent me a batch of the new subs ( a pair of 12" P3 , a pair of 12" T2 's and a 12" P3 shallow )
anyways I blew a T2 in a common chamber ( JBL/Crown BPX 2200.1 amp) so they sent me a replacement
and blew another one a few days later so I built a common chamber for the pair of P3's
I BEET the crap out of those things for 6 months...got all sorts of weird smells from the voice coil but they just kept going...
hooked them up to the Crown A3000gti and they took it for over a month ...
those P3's can take ALOT of clean power and they hit really decent
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I will most likely run a processor with this set up ,I have been looking at a few, some of those new digital processors are really flexible but
a signal processor can do many things to affect the sound but it cannot do everything because the signal processor does not produce the sound directly. That task falls to the speakers. Even the most capable signal processor can only deliver the best sound the speakers can create, and low-end speakers are generally unable to take full advantage of the perfectly balanced clean signal provided by a high-end signal processor. This is why I like speakers to be capable of producing clean enough sound to take full advantage of it.
I can not find much of any review on these things anywhere on line.....too new I guess but from what most of the
stuff I can find on some of their other stuff looks good
Scan Revelator ??......I'll check it out
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True ... Geez this is soo true !!!I have always found that if I spend the money on a good quality product
there is no need to equalize or process the shit out of it
I see this all the time.....some people will rather skimp on components and save $500
but then they turn around and spend that saved $500 on processing to end up with
a final result that is lacking
LOL. Using active filters and processing allows one to use drivers that excel in a specific installation and adjust/compensate for environmental effects. You can literally tailor the entire setup for the best sound in a given installation. I don't consider that skimping. Though I admit they require a lot more time to setup.
I have nothing against component sets either, but the ones I've heard with exorbitant price tags weren't inherently better then the well planned active setups I've heard.
true.... I have run active in the past and tried all kinds of
midbass ,mids and tweet combinations , they sounded really good
to me until I sat in a car with some ridiculously high priced
components
not saying all high priced components worth it but there are a few set ups
I have heard and owned that just sound awesome and at the same time I have
owned a couple that were not
for example the CDT Eurosport set up I had REALLY sucked ...biggest waste
of money I have ever seen in one of my systems...
almost $1800 for that set up back then
http://www.showyoursound.nl/Editorials/Editorial.asp?EditorialID=161
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nice to know...the install would have to work in favour of being on axis
that is why I liked the 660gti tweeters...those wave guides really widened
the listening window
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True ... Geez this is soo true !!!I have always found that if I spend the money on a good quality product
there is no need to equalize or process the shit out of it
I see this all the time.....some people will rather skimp on components and save $500
but then they turn around and spend that saved $500 on processing to end up with
a final result that is lacking
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I listened to the Focal K2 3 way in a demo board...they are REALLY bright
but a single mid bass up front is a bit weak...I am use to being able to feel
the mid bass in my seat and bounce the mirrors with it
almost considered grabbing 2 more sets of 660's but I want 3 way this time
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I have always found that if I spend the money on a good quality product
there is no need to equalize or process the shit out of it
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I do not buy cheep components...they always sound like shit to me when I do
the last ccomponents I had were the JBL 660gti"s at $1500 a pair and they
were to date the best sounding components I have ever owned and they took 400w rms
per channel for 5 years flawlessly...still in perfect shape in a buddies car
so imo a good set of comps are worth the $$$
I might take a chance on these....last time I had to buy 2 sets of comps to get
the double mid bass up front
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I am trying to decide what to run on my front stage and I have been curious about these
has anyone here run these yet or have any experience with the Mille 's ???
I have been looking at this set for my front stage and wanted to see if people who got them
in their installs are happy with their performance for the $$$$...comments good or bad
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LOL
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cool
........check your PM
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it should sound really tight
those tweeters sound un like anything available for car audio
..the same titanium tweeters used in the high end night club and studio stuff
both the mids and mid bass are XBL*