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  3. Posted

    Alright, we'll do a little math here

    Say we have a consistent amount of current (amperage) draw at 100 amps and lets Say you were running at 13v.

    So to find wattage we multiply Volts*Amps

    13v*100a= 1300w * .80 (for a Class D amplifier efficiency rating) which would come out to 1040w.

    So on the opposite side lets say you drop down to 12v

    12v*100a=1200w * .80 = 960w

    In order to gain a noticable increase in output you need to gain at least 3dB. 3dB is the smallest a human can notice a change in output.

    and in order to gain the 3dB threshold you must in theory double your wattage.. so is that tiny amount of extra wattage going to matter in a daily driving scenario?

    The short answer is no, it would not matter what-so-ever.

    SO pick an amplifier that fits your budget, is aesthetically pleasing, and is in your power range.

    Granted what I've said isn't 100% perfect, but I hope you get the general idea behind it all.

    excellent breakdown, props!

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  6. Posted

    Too high a price for that high of mileage ... I'd go no higher than $12k for the truck and that would be at my highest.. I'd try for lower...

    ^this. I wouldnt feel comfortable shelling out ~17k for a 100k mile vehicle.

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  7. Posted

    Consider this: Choose your max dimensions based on an enclosure size that you can easily install and remove from your trunk. This way if you need to use your spare tire you could simply take your enclosure out of the trunk, remove the spare tire then put the enclosure back in the trunk. I found it helpful to make a simple mock-up box out of cardboard. You find that you can use a larger enclosure than you originally expected.

    Hey, stop making sense

    Thats what I did with one of my previous installs. I'm gonna get down to trying that with this one over the weekend. However, I'm thinking as long as the box isn't too long, I can simply rotate it 90 degrees to give access to the spare (but secure it with heavy duty Velcro). The trunk of this vehicle is huge, I'm just trying to work around the spare area.

    I appreciate all the help guys. Enough jibber jabber from me, now I need to get down to business and start the wheels rolling.

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  8. Posted · Edited by FocusedOnSound

    The dual Sa-8's ported would have slightly more output assuming you also supplied them with twice the power of a single 10" Dcon ported. In identical enclosures the SA's would be about 2db louder according to WinISD with twice the power input (I used 1.25cuft). But, the two Sa-8's would also be twice the cost plus the cost of a 600w compared to the cost of a 300w amp, which to me wouldn't be worth a 2db difference based on the goals you've indicated.

    In my previous comments though I didn't realize you had already sold the 10" Dcon. You also have the option of looking for a good sealed enclosure 12" driver, which may be a better option for simplicity sake since you are space restricted.

    So hows about the thoughts of a 12" sealed dcon? I like how I went from 2 8s to a 12 dcon. I like the sound of that. Gonna poke around for some enclosure options

    EDIT: I meant Dcon not Icon.

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  9. Posted

    If you could manage the additional depth then you could probably net volume around the optimal specs for a 10" dcon in a ported enclosure.

    One 10" in 2ft^3 ported enclosure theoretically on paper should have the same output as two 10" in 2ft^3 sealed enclosure. Assuming your using the same drivers in comparisons.

    So you can guess that 2 8s in 2ft^3 sealed would have less output then the 2 10s sealed or 1 10 ported. (generalization)

    I would figure out your max dimensions though, with 100% certainty, otherwise advice on misinformation isn't very helpful.

    The updated depth dimension of 14" is pretty accurate. I had chosen 8.5" before because it would make the install easier. A max depth of 14" still allows spare access, I'll just have to modify that trunk floor cover slightly.

    thats interesting about the ported 10 having greater output than 2 8 sealed. Thought that the extra cone area might make that up. I'd always like to go with (for simplicity of install/setup) with one sub over two. Do you think that, given 2 ft^3 to work with, that 2 SA-8's ported would work and would they have greater output than 1 10 DCON ported?

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  10. Posted

    OP,

    Is there any way you could have the width and depth of the box stay under the width and depth of the panel that lifts for the spare tire area? Then Mount it to that panel (depending on the material), worst comes to worst you could still raise the panel for access.

    Just thinking about any other ways that might give you some more volume for a box, otherwise your pretty restricted on options.

    Wow, great responses already. Thanks for all the input guys.

    I should clarify. I HAD a DCON in my old car (scion tc, hatchback). I sold that setup. I'm assuming that my new car (Passat) has a trunk and is larger, I'll need a decent chunk more sub. On second or third thought I may be able to expand my Depth dimension to about 13-15 inch by following the above idea (about 2ft^3).

    Since both of the subs I liked really want a ported enclosure and we aren't sure I have enough volume for that. What are some good sealed subs in 10 or 8 that work for about 2 ft^3. Or would one 10 in a ~2ft^3 ported enclosure trump 2 10 or 2 8's in a sealed?

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  11. Posted · Edited by FocusedOnSound

    I used to have a single 10 DCON sealed with about .7 ft^3 of airspace and loved it, just wanted a tad more output. I figured the easiest way would be to put 2 10's in a sealed box. The problem is I'm not sure if I have optimal room for it. I've got a 08 Passat that I want to keep the spare tire available which restricts my area for the box to against seats where the trunk curves in. Not sure if this would give me optimal enclosure for 2 DCONs. My next thought would be to put 2 8" subs instead. The best 8 inch subs I've seen are the Sundown SA-8. Anyone have any other recommendations that fit for my application?

    Long story short, here are the cliffs:

    - Max dimensions are 8.5x26x13(DxWxH) About 1.5 ft^3 total

    - Had a single 10 DCON sealed but wanted a bit more output.

    - Concerned that I don't have enough space for 2 DCONs and am contemplating 2 SA-8s

    - Subs will be used for daily, no competitions or shows. Main listening would be to a large variety of music like: Gorillaz, Tom Petty, Neil Young, Rick Ross, Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    - Will be getting signal from to stock HU (with Line out put converter).

    - No Amp chosen yet.

    Any other competitors to the SA-8 in the 8 inch range?

    EDIT: just saw that SA-8 are not recommend sealed, but recommend ported of .6-1.0 ft^3 per driver

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  12. Posted

    I've yet to find a trustworthy installer in Jersey either... The ones down in south Jersey (read Hamilton) are overpriced d1cks... I wanted a price for a sealed enclosure and was quoted $400 .. I went to one local and they called a guy they use and I got the same enclosure I wanted for $125 ... I only had to do the terminals myself which is what I requested... So I guess it's all about luck?

    Thats where I'm from. Vineland/Hamilton Area. There seems to be so many fly-by-night shops. All the good recommendations I've heard from other forums are over 2 hours away (Near NY). I'd even be open paying a one man shop to do this for me.

    Can I get a mod to move this to a general forum, perhaps get some more exposure?

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  13. Posted

    What? There are compromises with everything. To get superior quality, performance and value, this is how we have to do it. If we opened up a store front, prices would sky rocket. The beauty is here, you can get unbiased opinions, factual information, install tips and hints etc. and actually speak directly to an owner of the company and people who have actually owned and used the product. Where as in the store, salesmen will lie and do anything just to make the sale at the highest profit possible, and there is no way you are going to get to speak to the owner of the respective brands you are looking at, not to mention the performance per dollar is FAR worse. Dealers don't like us because we do not have arrogant mark up's.

    I'm just joking.Hence the suicide emoticon.

    Your business model makes perfect sense. You deliver a excellent product at an excellent price-point. I was being lazy and trying to find someone to do everything. I'll just have to order from you and take to a good dealer. That was my problem because I'd trust myself over any of the dealers I've meet around me (and I don't trust myself that much). I've done a few installs myself and for friends, but I just dont have the tools or experience for the fit and finish I want for this install (i want a close to factory look).

    But maybe I still will get some BOSS though, I mean its 2000Watts for only 70 dollars.

    http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_36891_Boss-NX12D.html

    :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

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  14. Posted

    We do not have a physical store. That is a HUGE reason why we can offer superior products for superior prices over walk in stores.

    :(

    I figured as much. Got any ideas for someone like myself to compare your products against perhaps sundown or got any installers you could recommend?

    I don't have any installers off hand in the area I can suggest.

    Fine, I'm just gonna go get some BOSS installed anyway. They SLAP man.... :suicide-santa:

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  15. Posted

    We do not have a physical store. That is a HUGE reason why we can offer superior products for superior prices over walk in stores.

    :(

    I figured as much. Got any ideas for someone like myself to compare your products against perhaps sundown or got any installers you could recommend?

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  16. Posted

    Not sure if this is the right sub forum for this or not. Let me know if I need to move it.

    I'm in the South Jersey area, I've got a 08 Passat. I wanted to add maybe a 1 12" or 2 10" to the factory sound system to fill out the bottom end. I had a single 10 DCON in my previous car and loved it. I did all my other installs myself, but this time I'd like to have a more professional finish. I saw the SSA HQ is not far from me (about an hour and a half).

    Does the SSA HQ do installs / have a showroom that I could listen to the other subs they sell (sundown, IA, etc) to see how they all compare? If not, does SSA have any installers in this area they'd recommend?

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  19. Posted

    neck trap and upper back size? sounds like a recipe for deadlifts!!!

    What about your leg development? I would start throwing in deadlifts and bent-rows/t-bar rows. Puts size on much better than one arm dumbbell and cable exercises.

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  23. Posted · Edited by FocusedOnSound

    yes it is a very good price for that sub, thanks for the advertising haha :dancing: That sub served me great, Only reason I am getting rid of it is so i can upgrade the front stage.

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  25. Posted

    I figured so, what would be the easiest cheapest way to correct the situation so I can run active? Don't really want to swap out HU (although thats probably the proper way)..

    M5: I've been reading alot of your old posts about active set-ups and am really wanting to get this to work.

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