12" XCON Build. Looking for recomendations

[12" XCON Build. Looking for recomendations]

The Xcon doesn't need a lot of power for it to be loud. Which means it doesn't need the full 2k rms or even it's 1750 rms. People run them on 600 rms and are very happy with the output. We can just make your box on the bigger side to compensate for the low power.

 

If you don't have the money or just don't want to get a second battery right now I would suggest running the amp at 4 ohms. This way it'll be more efficient and you won't have to worry about putting strain on your alt, battery and equipment. Your amp puts out around 700 rms at 4 ohms. I've had two and they're great amps. Adding a second battery is easy. What I did was run a pos and neg wire from the front batt to the second batt. You can run just the pos to the back batt and ground the back batt in the trunk. 

 

That's good you can build the box. It's way cheaper than buying and you get experience doing it. Personally I love to build them.

 

For you tuning I don't think you need to tune that low for your type of music. With me I had a 12" Zcon tuned to 32 hz and hit decaf's low music (28 and up) like crazy. Now I have a 15" Zcon and and it's between 33 and 34 and I don't hit that low like I want, but still able to hear it pretty good. With my tuning at 33-34 it sounds good with the dubstep and electronic music I listen too (I like a lot of that music). So for tuning I would go with 33hz if I were you.

 

I'll put in the measurements and see what I come up with.

 

Awesome that you have the 180 alt. Is it dodge charger? The volt meter is good because it'll let you know how much of a voltage drop you have and if you need more electrical upgrades(second batt). And with doing the big 3, it's no problem doing it on a new car. I have the big 3 done on my 2012 fusion.

 

 

Yeah I noticed that people run them at the lower wattage.  I guess my concern is I just want to have more than needed and I can always turn it down

 

I don't want to damage my electrical system so I'm willing to do whatever it takes (within reason).  It's seeming like running a second battery should be pretty easy given that my car has a factory spot for a battery in the trunk.  I would plan to run the power from the battery in the engine bay to the rear battery and then ground it in the trunk. then power the amp off the battery in the trunk.  Question is what battery would I need/reccomended.  can they be had for under $200?

 

Regarding the Big 3 upgrade.  I have seen people ADD the zero gauge to existing setup and some remove? which is the correct way, or does it matter? seems easier possibly to just add to existing but not sure?

 

The Vehicle is a VW Passat TDI.

 

Can you explain the efficiency piece for the AMP? I have read this somewhere but my Buddy seems to think it makes no difference what OHM you run the amp at.  but I have seen efficiencys go from say 86 at 4 or 2 ohm and then 1ohm it's in the 70% range.  What does this mean in layman terms?

 

Next question is I'm pretty sure the XCON only comes in dual 1ohm or Dual 2ohm voice coils.  Which one would I get for a 4ohm application? If I wanted more power could I rewire the same sub for 1 or 2ohms? 

 

I am really leaning towards just adding the second battery for what it's worth though.

 

Sounds good on the box tuning, looking foward to hearing what you come up with.

 

 

Thanks again for all the help!!!!

kinetic hc600 and high strand count (ofc wire) 4ga should do the trick. I love my kinetic, you don't need an isolator, my car NEVER dies and I can bump it when the cars off at full volume for a good 45 minutes at least( 1000w mono and 320w 4channel). If you could go bigger i would too, they work wonders (solid 14.4volts at both amps).

[I need some input]

Thanks for the replies everyone! Now that i have done more measuring i've decided to go with a 12" in a optimal sized ported box, it sounds like everyone so far has very great things to say about SSA, only one review brought up an issue with "bottoming out", which im guessing might be a enclosure issue? I typically love listening to music with copious amounts of <20hz bass rhythmns so I want something that will really push lows but at the same time deliver clean crisp hits when I want to listen to house.

@Bassink- What size box are you running and whats it tuned to? Do you have LP filter on to cut frequencies below a certain point? I'd love to run a 12 if i could ( i took those dimensions from the 18 that barely squeezes in) And have you had the chance to measure decible output? Nice fusion btw, my friend leases a sport also, the voice command feature the use is awesome! and you gotta love the changing interior mood lights they come with haha.

[I need some input]

Hi everyone, I've been doing some shopping lately looking for a new sub and wanted to get some advice. Heres a few things specifically I'm kinda basing my next purchase upon.

1. Budget- $450 (approx)

2. single subwoofer setup only

3. minimum 1500w RMS

4. Best SQ possible at the same time id love something that can hit pretty damn hard (140 decibels if possible)

5. Very durable!! I've already blown 2 soundsplinter rlp-18s i need something that can take some serious abuse. ( something that actually can withstand in hot weather)

I will be using a a jl 1000/1v2 to power the sub ( Nak cd400 headunit).

So far I've been browsing TC sounds Axis series, Ascendant audio mayhem series, or sound solution XCon series. I've been offered to purchase a jl 13w7 with ground shaker box for $350 but Im not sure if its going to give me the the lows that my 18 produced. Im open to all subwoofer and enclosure suggestions and my max allowable dimensions are 30" wide, 15" tall, and 20" deep.(facing trunk).

I want to hear everyones thoughts, am i crazy trying to achieve 140 decibles? Is a 13w7 a perfect match as most people pledge? Other companies out there to consider? please, if you have any experiences post the specs of the vehicle as well so I have an idea.