Florida_Audio

what do you mean by odd setting for the gain at normal? i can set the front component speakers to HPF. and then should i change freq to 65? so 65 and up is played. because my speakers are not rated for below 40 anyway? "Frequency Response: 65Hz - 29kHz" the tweeter is now set at -6 db. while it does sound better, its weird, im able to raise the volume knob a few levels higher on headunit before it starts to sound harsh, but it also seems by changing the tweeter attenuation, it made even the midwoofer also lower it volume, or maybe not. -6b is lowest setting. the sibilance is still super harsh in the vocals. its extremely annoying and difficult to listen to any songs with vocals. so by headunit settings, you are asking what is available to change? or what i have already changed? because i cant stand to listen to it at default headunit settings with a flat EQ. extremely harsh sound still, even with tweeter attenuation, although it did make it a bit better. its weird, because it just hurts at mid to high level volumes. low volume, its slightly annoying, but who wants to barely hear their music? :[ i wonder if lowering the gain might help with the harshness? cause i still do want to hear music at decent volume, but maybe even an L pad? not sure what an L pad does exactly, but i think it can still be added even though i have the tweeter crossover thing? not sure if it would help? i looked at many reviews for the alpine SPR 60c before i bought them, and alot of people love them, and say the tweeters are bright/harsh. but they say to use the tweeter attenuation to fix it and it sounds good. but i still dont think it sounds good at all, just a bit better. also my headunit is a alpine CDE-164bt, with 4v preouts

okay thats all the pictures that i choose out of the first imgur link, to see them easier. I should mention that Channel B on the amp should not be plugged into anything, as far as i know. i asked the installer to just hook up that second set of RCAs to the other 2 channels to allow for a subwoofer later on. and that is why it is set at LPF. im not exactly sure where the other end of the RCA is located, although i assume its under the mat of my trunk. please let me know if theres anything else you need. thanks again!

some are duplicates just because different angles, and some are with flash, and some without, tried to be thorough. not sure what settings you want to know for the headunit? ive tried turning the headunit amp on/off and cant tell any difference in sound quality really. i normally keep the headunit amp on, so to power my rear factory speakers. although i can turn it off. i do have crossover options on the headunit, but im pretty sure they are off. and if they are not off its at default whatever they are. i have a 2013 hyundai elantra coupe, by the way. i have photos here of the amp, settings on amp, the speaker wires running into the amp, and the power wire and ground. and photos of the left mid woofer / tweeter, and right mid woofer / tweeter. the ground is like 1 foot away from the amp, attached to the trunk, is that a good spot? also i looked at the speaker wires connected to the amp. as shown in pictures, it seems the red wires are both attached to the same sign. the red are attached to the + on both left and right speaker. and the black are attached to the - on both left and right speaker. but just because its attached properly on the amp, is it possible they are attached wrong on the speaker itself? so then swapping them at the amp for just one speaker might fix it, if its wired wrong at the speaker? link to imgur site which has the gallery of the photos i took, some are duplicates there. should i repost the photos that are good here on this site? or is this link fine for you to view? thanks! and let me know please if theres anything else i need to provide! wow, not sure if its just me, but scrolling through those photos is a bit difficult, probably due to file size and loading them. maybe i should post just a few here to make it easier? http://imgur.com/a/9rSZA

heyyyy just took pictures of EVERYTHING... well pretty much. i can take more photos of speakers later if u need them, but i posted 2 in another thread that you saw, they were at a sort of bad angle. give me 2 min to upload the photos here. thanks again!

one more quick question... when swapping the + and - speaker wires at the amplifier, the car will be off. but would i need to disconnect the negative terminal of the car battery before messing with speaker wires at the amplifier? and/or would i need to do anything else, such as disconnect the fuses on the amplifier or something? just wondering if it can damage anything when swapping the speaker wires at the amplifier? thanks

ok thanks. got huge exam on friday in organic chem. afterwards i shall make sure to do this! thanks alot

all good, i read understood it. thanks one quick question, when you say +/ - at the amp, what do you mean? and whats the processor? the headunit? and then if so you mean behind the headunit? at the amp theres only RCA cables right? not sure what the + / - is?

yes i keep procrastinating taking photos of my amp settings, sorry... i will get to it someday lol. my bad. how do you change the phase of one speaker? i didnt do the install... which i now really do regret. but mehhh i guess i get to learn now how to alter this... do you have to unscrew the speaker and get behind it? i thought they were some sort of connector that the factory speaker was connected to and it automatically uses the proper cords? its also a component set so yea theres a separate tweeter. i also think the screw for the speaker mount is different than normal screws, so ill need to purchase a new screwdriver for it one side does definitely sound different than the other. it sounds almost as if the sound is being trapped in the door on the left and only some sound gets out, like bit less quality and lower volume. id assume the installer at the very least installed both sides with the same spacing between the speaker and door.... i do have time alignment, and i took measurements with a measuring tape but did not alter the setting on time alignment yet because im unhappy the sound quality, and i think that should be taken care of first, before altering the timing? or does maybe it doesnt matter what order i fix them in? edit: i also downloaded a free app to check the phasing on my phone for car speakers. plug in with aux cord and it sends pop noises and checks the phase. but it seems extremely inaccurate. its never consistent at all with either speaker. ive seen one on amazon for 7 bucks to check with pops but that apparently doesnt come with the CD for the pop noises. idk if theres some easy way to check phase without having to mess with wires first?

so is it possible one speaker is out of phase and sounds a bit lower in volume, and less clarity, compared to the other speaker? or would out of phase cause both to be equally bad?

ok thanks. so its basically that one is wired wrong, maybe. the left speaker sounds as if the sound is being trapped within the door panel and not all is getting into my car. while the right speaker sounds a bit more clear. not too noticeable but a bit but ive heard that out of phase will have much less bass. i do notice a slight different in bass in the left speaker but its not a whole lot? im not sure if it really is out of phase? ive tried fading the speakers left to right all one way and then all the other. with just vocals, pure voice, i played the clips from this site: http://www.richardfarrar.com/are-your-speakers-wired-correctly/ i played all clips, but the one by "Speaker Phase Test", i can clearly tell the different on my computer speakers, when the lady speaks in phase vs out of phase but on my car speakers, its a bit harder to tell, they both almost sound exactly the same, very slight difference. but the out of phase sound on my computer, sounds very similar to the way the music sounds on my left speaker in my car. my right speaker sounds much cleaner and a bit louder volume ive been wondering why my music in my car starts to make my ears hurt after listening for not long. i lowered the tweeter attenuation all the way as low as it can to -6 and it helped, but it still sounds a bit odd

Not sure if there is a thread for this already? if so please let me know, id love to see it! so far i enjoy watching some of "exoabigdeal" videos. hes done some stuff with SSA equipment also. and caraudiofabrication is another good one. and ericthecarguy showtimeSPL prefer channels that explain how things work, to learn about the equipment and that show different neat builds, some that everyday people can do, and sometimes more advanced things being done thats cool to watch for example from exoabigdeal with SSA 15 inch subs. 8 of them.... lol 8! anyone else?

yea lol exo has a great personality for his videos with car audio. very entertaining to watch, and the types of builds he does are always awesome is this who you are referring to on youtube? "Bryan TheCEO" not sure if i found the correct channel? thanks!

is that your own channel? :]

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try using a difference web browser. what browser are you using? make sure you are not in some sort of private browsing mode.

Is changing passive crossover same as changing headunit EQ? like i have a 9 band parametric EQ on my alpine 164-bt. and i have alpine spr 60c component speakers. the highs are very harsh. and im debating attempting to mess with my doors to edit the crossover. i have absolutely no clue what im doing with it. and dont want to risk much. i cannot find any videos for the year my car is. i have 2013 hyundai elantra coupe. only video i saw was for a 2005 elantra, 4 door. mine is a 2 door also and many years later. and about the passive crossover. i cant find any pictures only or guides on how to change and edit the crossover? what exactly is an EQ changing. and what exactly is the crossover setting changing? the same thing? i just want to lower the harshness of the highs. ive heard people say they do -2 or -4 db from crossover for tweeters...? but db is volume? that seems like what i need to edit. and ive also heard u edit the high pass or low pass filters on crossovers? so is this the same? this is the frequencies right? so its different than editing the db?

ok update and some questions!... i feel quite stupid. my bad.... a bit of it...... im man enough to admit when i am wrong. and i was wrong. the rear speakers work still. they are hooked up to the headunit like i asked. they are factory. apparently the settings i thought were for the rear speakers, are not the only settings. there is a setting on my headunit that turns off its amp or output or something to the speakers in case you are using an amp. i apparently turned this on. and it caused on the external amp to work, but turned off the rear speakers, that are hooked up to the headunit. so the rear speakers are fine.... they gave me back my speaker wire once i asked.... sort of sad i had to ask, but it could have been an honest mistake. the owner of the shop is the person i dont really like. (even though i told the owner twice, when he mentioned that i told them to turn the gain up on the amp because the volume was low, i told him a third time, that we never had that talk. i never told him to turn the gain up or the volume was too low. he told me this again when i saw him in person, and immediately i told him that was not true. it was slightly awkward, but i said it firmly once again. i was not looking to argue over something so petty, and luckily he just stopped after i said that it didnt happen. i feel like he was trying to make it be my fault for whatever was happening. although the gains seem to be set properly anyway....) the guy who worked on my car seemed knowledgeable and very helpful, he was a nice dude. ok and now for the hissing.... ugh. the mechanic explained that the hissing occurs in his system as well, and many others that he has seen, when using the aux input. which is all i use for my car. the cd player and bluetooth both have absolutely zero hissing at max volume on headunit but the aux input has hissing at volume 1. and the hissing is very noticeable at volume 10 and up. i only hear the hissing when theres a low volume point in the music, or no music. i guess its my headunit? doubt its the gains, if the bluetooth and cd player both have no hissing. can it still be a ground issue with the headunit? or is this normal for aux inputs? also a question. the max volume on the headunit is 35. at around volume 22, i believe i start to get clipping. thats around 60% of the max volume on headunit. is this normal? would it be better to lower the gain a bit? would this possibly allow to have louder sound before it starts to clip? not just number on volume, but sound as well be louder? ( i have read up on gains and clipping, but not sure if this is possible? it seems gains dont really affect max volume before clipping? just the volume knob, but not the actual hearing volume? or can setting the gain a bit lower, allow the actual volume to be louder and better quality before it clips?) Thanks all!

Where do i even start, when considering a subwoofer? i dont want very loud booming base. just enough to round out the sound. to produce lower frequencies and make it sound better. I have the ability to bridge 2 channels on my amp (Pioneer GM-D8604) for 300 RMS at 4 ohms or 250 RMS at 2 ohms. also, isnt this weird? i thought at a lower ohm, it would be able to produce more power? i guess you use whatever ohm the subwoofer is rated at? any difference between subwoofers rated at 2 ohm vs 4 ohm? What about size of woofer? 8 inch, 10, or 12, etc? i believe larger woofer produces more bass, can be louder. but also requires more RMS to power larger woofers. Would an 8 inch subwoofer produce a cleaner bass, or different type of bass than a 12 inch? other than how loud it can get? What about those tube, bazooka, self amplified subwoofers? ive heard those are horrible? but dont need to be hooked up to an amp? are they okay? or just trash? I would be getting a premade enclosure. not too worried about making my own customized and such. just looking for something cheap, but good quality. thanks. any info is appreciated!

idk how to meet these people? not many people really care about their car audio, let alone know how to do it. at least of people who i know and have spoken to. a few people i know from college got their stuff dont back at their homes at local shops. and by cranking it up to make it sound good, u mean they set the gains too high on purpose? cause im going back tomorrow to ask about the hissing noise. maybe a ground issue, maybe the gains. i didnt touch anything, just so they can fix it, whatever it is, because i already paid to have this job done well. idk why, but my speakers sound great at low volume. but the mid bass doesnt really shine until the volume is raised. and when i raise the volume to get good midbass, then the tweeters are way too high and hurt to listen to. this is why im asking about the tweeters. im considering placing a cloth over the outside, on the door panel to cover the tweeters a bit, to lower their harshness... lowering the treble on the EQ on the headunit, does help with the harshness a bit, but it also seems to lower the quality of the tweeter sound. and it seems when raising volume on headunit and lowering the treble, makes the tweeters prone to heavy distortion, sounds like clipping almost. i just want to lower the volume of the tweeter, separate from the volume of the midbass speaker.

why do u say this :[ its a store sort of close by. they had the best reviews online. compared to a few others around same distance. yeah thats a good point... idk. the dynamat kit says speaker kit. its only 1 ft by 1 ft or so. and yeah weird that they still put it by speaker. idk.