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    How old is your amp? Some old amps do loose power so it may end up being more then double the power. Only way to tell is clamp it and see what your sub is getting. That and so many of these manufacturers lie you honestly want know till you try. Have you used any sound deadening that's a cheap way to gain a little plus it helps the entire system and not just your sub stage. 

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  2. Posted · Edited by Billy Jack

    I would try a second battery, big 3-4, all  0 gauge wiring, and keep a eye on voltage drop. If it drops below 12volts, then you may need a alternator, but you want know till you try. Also listening habits will factor in to. If you are heavy on the volume for hours, then your gonna need a electrical system to substaine that. But if you go easy you may be fine. I'm running 1500 watts in my dodge, and have no problems unless I go full tilt for over 2 hour. 

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    3 hours ago, Shogen said:

    are you trolling again? lol 

    So how much experience have you had with SSA drivers? (hands on) I only ask because your judgement might be completely biased. Seeing as how many of us members here and other audio sites have had experiences with both I'm sure you can find out quite the opposite of that statement. I for one would but my Xcon against a w7 any day of the week. But in all honesty if your install is perfect then the equipment is up to preference at that point... 

     

    Shame on you man! lol  (waiting to see who else chimes in now)

    I have no idea how they sound, that's what I was saying. I hope when I get mine it can sound as good as my JL, and hit as hard as my sundown's, but that's a lot to ask of any sub from any company. The only ones I have heard where in prefab boxes on very low power, so I'm hoping there half as good as everyone says. Sorry if I'm off topic I was responding to Aaron's quote about a all SSA system. 

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  4. Posted · Edited by Billy Jack

    On 2/11/2017 at 9:45 PM, Jay-C76 said:

    Like sex in your ear! Post pics & good luck!

    It would be awesome if the SSA subs could have close to the sound quality of my 13w7, and still have half the output as my Sundown team subs, but I imagine that being really hard to do as everything in audio is a trade off. I'm surprised the JL's sound as good as they do and can still hammer when called upon, and same goes for the sundowns, they are violent but sound decent at moderate levels, but they are in so much better of a box then my w7, it's just in a crappy prowedge sealed box, it looks good but I know the sub has so much more in it, and my teams need more power, there laughing at the BC3500, and my week as electrical. I still have so much to do but it's hard the way I work, and the local shops are just a rip off. I don't trust them to install a thing. I paid one of them to do my JL system, and  it looked as though they just flagged someone down and said you wanna make $50 real quick. They even put used wire pieced together in my doors, thinking I would never see it, and my amp had black tape holding the wires together, like how exspensive can zip ties be? 

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    6 hours ago, Aaron Clinton said:

    There isn't an all SSA install just yet, but we are working towards making that a possibility.

    You got everything but head units and crossovers but I was talking mostly about all ssa subs, mids, highs, and amps with my usual alpine head unit. Oh and wire I guess to. I normally run passive in my cars so I wouldn't need a dsp anyways. I have ran active but not in a while. The pic of the S/10 with 20's was a active front 2 way but I mostly did it because I couldn't build a big sub stage in a single cab without doing a blow through so I focused more on sound quality. 

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    2 hours ago, ///M5 said:

    While i love the idea of an all SSA 3 way the drivers the site currently have don't lend themselves for that.  Unless of course you use the 8's as up front subs and not midbasses.  

    Who was it that made subwoofers designed to be used in the front of the car? Morel maybe, I can't remember, but I do remember they used non standard sizes like 9", 11", 13". I myself have never tried subs upfront but I'm sure if they designed subs to be ran that way it could be done. 

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    3 hours ago, Randal Johnson said:

    I'm mainly a Sound Quality competitor, but I have made my rounds in the sound pressure lanes !!! 

    I've learned that motor structure is more important (to handle brute amplifier power) than cone area to produce awesome numbers on a meter. Well, along with expert enclosure build and vehicle modification ... 

    So with that being said, these drivers should do really well in the SPL lanes ... 

    Really, I honestly didn't think these monster 8's could do much, but cool to know they can. I bet it's fun to see the look on someone's face when they think you got 12's or 15's and you tell them 8's. I always thought it took multiples of these to get loud, like 4-6 8's to equal a couple of 12's. 

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    Good thing your coming out with all this new stuff right when I'm ready to do another big build. All JL in the dodge, Sundown and crescendo in the mustang, and all SSA in the Cruze just sounds like a good idea.  Expect a order from me soon Aaron. You guys got me curious to how a all SSA system would sound. I truly hope there half as good as everyone says.

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  12. Posted · Edited by Billy Jack

    Can these little guys actually hit, or move air if you will, like say a 12". I haven't heard any of these new 8"s? Does the huge motor force actually make up for the lack of cone area, or are these just for filling in the lower end of the music signal? Reminds me of the guys in Europe who did 150's, on a butt load of 6x9's!  But could these do decent numbers without having 10 of them? That mostly my question as I have no exsperience with 8" or 10" inch subs. 

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    On 2/2/2017 at 10:03 AM, Cwallaker said:

    A sneak peek of my new box . It is being built by Dave Marin of High Output Enclosures.  It will be bed lined with a red port perhaps. It will have 5.0 cu ft net ,and is tuned @33 hz . I have two options for power . I can continue  using two p1000x1's both have birth sheets of 1500 watt's , or I can use a synergy wfo 3500; but it'll have to be run at .5 ohm since I have dual 2ohm xcon 12's . 

    Should sound great either way . 

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    What does High Output Enclosures charge for a box like this? If you don't mind me asking. The guy I have build my boxes is always super busy around this time of year so I may have to find someone else to build my box for my Cruze. Still trying to figure out what subs I want to run. Sorry not trying to get off topic just curious about the pricing.

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  15. Posted · Edited by Billy Jack

    It can't hurt being part owner in a online store, to which you can get some goodies at cost. I would be doing builds non stop if I where you. Can't wait to see how it turns out. :Bling:

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  16. Posted

    4 hours ago, S.DeYoung said:

    Awesome, thanks for sharing

    This is what I was talking about. Myself, I would rather mount off axis, and adjust it the best I can, then have a on axis out of place speaker. Not saying it's what anyone else should do, just saying it's what I prefer myself. That speaker on the dash would drive me crazy. I believe in fixing the sound instead of just moving it to try and fix the problem. To each his own, but thats why I never understood the hole install is everything bit. 

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    56 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

    Rofl.  I'd like to see him do an install without crossovers.  Funny coming from the guy who has monstrous difficulties with box design 101.

    Oh, and yes I'm not a expert on box building.  I'm pretty sure I already said that about a dozen times. I always let someone who has the proper equipment do it so I can focus on what I do know, the rest of the system. Now I do the exterior painting, or carpeting but I was never trained in box design. I'm sure I could but why not just ask somebody who can do it so much easier. It's like building a car, not many guys build every inch of a car, they do what they know they can get right and farm out the rest, i.e., engine building, transmission building, paint and fabrication etc. Well I can do the entire system but find it easier to let somebody who does it often build my boxes then I apply the finish I want. 

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    1 hour ago, S.DeYoung said:

    So crossovers aren't part of the install? You don't need to follow the "pack" here at SSA, you need to stop arguing with everything that Sean posts. Every time you argue you do not post valid points in opposition to his. I have learned a lot from Sean, as well others over the many years I have been on this forum. I will continue to do so, you many want to start.

    I'm not arguing, just correcting his wrong information, like he does mine. Install is everything, is like saying box rise, or sq, it's not exactly correct, even though in certain situations it fits more then others, like for a competitor who can measure it, and adjust accordingly. Just like install isn't gonna fix every system, a complex set of digital crossovers can do more, a lot more. That's all I was trying to say. :soapbox:

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  19. Posted · Edited by Billy Jack

    34 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

    You suck at the internet too I see.

    At least that's all I'm sucking, I saw that bumper sticker on your SUV, cowboys butts drive me nuts, I would have kept that to myself there Sean. Lmmfao

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    37 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

    Rofl.  I'd like to see him do an install without crossovers.  Funny coming from the guy who has monstrous difficulties with box design 101.

    Why would I do an install without crossovers if I just said CROSSOVERS are the way to fix your system not moving your speakers around. That was my whole point. Fix the sound coming out of the speakers instead of spending $1000's and countless hours to move your speakers for barely any bennifit. 

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    1 hour ago, S.DeYoung said:

    So crossovers aren't part of the install? You don't need to follow the "pack" here at SSA, you need to stop arguing with everything that Sean posts. Every time you argue you do not post valid points in opposition to his. I have learned a lot from Sean, as well others over the many years I have been on this forum. I will continue to do so, you many want to start.

    No there not. There part of the equipment. Install is speaker location, sound deadening and so forth. And I just gave you a valid point  goober can you not read either? 

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  22. Posted

    2 minutes ago, S.DeYoung said:

    Yes really, please keep your closed-mindedness out of this thread.

    So if I don't FOLLOW the pack and agree install is everything, I'm the close minded one. Hmm, I'm not sure I follow your logic. I think crossovers are more important. Now I'm not saying install isn't important it is but it's not everything as all the forum guys say. Let me drop some knowledge on you, here is where that wrong saying come from, guys couldn't fix the problems that cars cause with imaging, soundstage, frequency response, and off axis response with crossovers so the only thing they could change was INSTALL which is why they think it's everything. I say fix the problems with crossovers as they can do far more then install ever can. I'm sorry if I offend you, I just don't follow the same old forum pack.

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  25. Posted

    8 hours ago, ///M5 said:

    You suck at quoting...I didn't type any of that.  

    Take it up with yourself there "SSA tech team", cause it locks up if you accidentally hit the wrong area, and it want let you do anything until you post. I even tried to close the entire site, and internet, and it pops right back up as soon as you come back.   

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