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99.% Sure this is final. Will be running active
Front State: HAT L6 + HAT L1
Sub: M5 IXL 10" (ported)
Amp: Alpine PDX-5
Damp: Second Skin
HU: Alpine CDA-9887
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So you think a M5 IXL would work fine on 367 RMS? If so I'll go that way and save a benjamin
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Furthermore, the manual says it can handle 600w continuous. The PDX-5, from what I can see, can't even reach that.And considering that 600W is in the zone marked in red in the manual, why would you want it to?
What it can "handle" is different than what's optimal.
Yea, I screwed that reading up. Realized it too late to edit.
The pdx5 doesnt get super hot, is ok to touch, not too too hot, and it doesnt seem to affect the amp, i would say after 10 mins it gets to the temp it stays at, but ive drove for hours at times with it on 1/2 to 3/4 volume and it never shuts off, just stays warm.the actual output of mine is 105 rms x 4 in 4 ohm and 367 rms x1 in 4 or 2 ohm.
367 pretty close to 400, which is right at the top of optimum, so we might be looking at my setup.
HAT L6 + HAT L1 + JL 10w6 + Alpine PDX-5
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Right now the M5 IXL 10 looks real appealing, the only problem is that it needs power, so I'd have to get it its own amp. The 10w6 would still be cheaper in the long run.
Before shipping I'm looking at the following combos and prices. The Fi Q would give me the same issues. I failed to notice it would take 1000w rms
JL w6 275
PDX-5 360
635
m5 IXL 165
PDX 4.100 289
MRMP-M1000 250
704
m5 IXL 165
PDX 4.150 375
MRMP-M1000 250
790
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Kicker zx700.5 looks like a good one too.
RMS Power Rating:4 ohms: 70 watts x 4 chan. + 210 watts x 1 Class D Sub channel
2 ohms: 85 watts x 4 chan. + 420 watts x 1 Class D Sub channel
4 ohms (bridged): 130 watts x 2 chan. + 420 watts x 1 chan. (2 ohms sub channel, 210 watts @ 4 ohms)
Except that it says it is a class D. I know most mono are D for the sub, but I can't tell if the front four are D also, or AB.
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Either way, it's 20+ inches long, so won't easily fit under the seat.
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Jerk I like the price tag on the IXL
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I might, I've just heard such great things about the w6, and not all that much at all on the Q, or any Fi for that matter
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apparently :-/ well, on to amp. Most likely going w6 for sub
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Oh. I thought 2-channel meant left/right, and 4-channel meant front left/right + rear left/right, but I guess then that does make sense. Stupid numbers.I've ditched the W7. Thinking Fi Q10 or Fi BL10 (daily) now. Seem to have the highest reviews for the price. I've heard rumors of 5-channel amps, but I've done no research on those yet. A decent 5 might cost the same/less than a 2 and a 4 (maybe ?) Alpine PPDX-5 for $350 on eBay, Polk Audio 1100.5 for $475, for examples
im using an alpine pdx 5 and it puts out lots of clean power, and it hardly takes up space, but it gets hot,. i paid 600 for mine, way to much, but thats the only one i could get, then a week or two later, bam the store on here throws up some of the pdx 5's for $369
How hot, and after how long? And hypothetically
CEA-2006 Power Rating- CEA-2006 Power Rating (4Ohm@14.4 V =1% THD+N), S/N 76dBA (Ref: 1W into 4Ohm & 2Ohm for Mono ch.):
- 75W x 4 + 300W x 1
RMS Power Ratings
- Per channel into 4 Ohms: (@ 14.4V ≤1%THD+N, 20Hz - 20kHz @ 4Ω for 4ch.) 75W x 4
- Per channel into 2 Ohms: (@ 14.4V ≤1%THD+N, 20Hz - 200Hz @ 2Ω for Mono ch.) 300W x 1
So that would be enough for
- L1 Pmax : 100w (8 ohm) Pnom: 7w
- L6 Pmax : 250w (4 ohm) Pnom: 60w
- w610: Pmax: 600w (dual 4 ohm) Poptimum: 300-400
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The reason I ask is because the JL site has the following image
Which says to me that the optimum wattage is around 300, which means the PDX will be putting out its max wattage for that channel on a continuous basis.
Furthermore, the manual says it can handle 600w continuous. The PDX-5, from what I can see, can't even reach that.
This would explain the heat issue, but can this reduce the lifespan of the amp?
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the JL Org Slash is even weaker
Rated Power Front Channels: 100 W RMS x 2 @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)Rated Power Rear Channels: 25 W RMS x 2 @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
Rated Power Subwoofer Channel: 250 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
PA1100.5
PowerPower Specs 125 watts x 4 (@ 2 ohm) and 600 watts x 1 (@ 1 ohm) Continuous
or
80 watts x 4 (@ 4 ohm) and 280 watts x (@ 4 ohm)
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I got offered a trade of the following:
I maybe interested in trade. I have a phoenix gold tantrum 250.2 2 channel and a phoenix gold tantrum 400.4 4 channel both new condition.Opinions? I'll search in the morning. I'm a bit tipsy atm
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No, because I am an idiot and read another thread wrong and until about 10 seconds ago thought the W6 was the SPL sub. :-/ I thought the w7 was the SQ, which is why I was so interested in it. /slaps head. I have also heard good things about the RE SE. And I can get a 10SE for ~130 on ebay. Half of what the Q and w6 cost. ikesound has the SE12 for 99$ !!I don't think you'd be making a bad decision with the Q, but have you looked into the W6v2?Just drop the BL off your list right now. You're running HAT drivers, run a sub that will blend with themConsider it dropped. I have no spine
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Oh. I thought 2-channel meant left/right, and 4-channel meant front left/right + rear left/right, but I guess then that does make sense. Stupid numbers.
I've ditched the W7. Thinking Fi Q10 or Fi BL10 (daily) now. Seem to have the highest reviews for the price. I've heard rumors of 5-channel amps, but I've done no research on those yet. A decent 5 might cost the same/less than a 2 and a 4 (maybe ?) Alpine PPDX-5 for $350 on eBay, Polk Audio 1100.5 for $475, for examples
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when he hits it at 1:09?
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Do I need a 4 channel? I figured with the L6 midrange/midbass in the kickpanel and the L1 tweets, I would only need a 2 channel.
Trying to stay around 200 US$ as I'll need another for my sub. I looked at the Sundown SAX 100.2, but a tad out of my price range at the moment at 219 US$.
Unless there is a consensus that I can't beat the quality of a 100.2 at 219, then I might consider it.
The RF T400-2 looked interesting also. Rockford is a name that comes up a lot, so it can't be all bad, also I can get one on ebay pretty easily.
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For what it is worth, HU is Alpine CDA-9887
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Amp for Hybrid Audio L61-2 set? L6 - 4 ohms; L1 - 8 ohms
L1 max : 100w
L6 max : 250w
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he bearly touched the cone and the spiders gave way! loli would be pissed off i only gor 136 db out of all that money.
How could you tell? The quality of the vid is so bad
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man it is impossible to find a Fi anywhere but their own site. They aer harder to find than HAT
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but its a thumb. thought it was supposed to link somewhere
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denim your vid is broke but don't worry, here is a clip where they put two jackhammers in a breadtruck :0
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well I guess I know what I'll be doing in December How long does an install usually take? I wonder if I could knock it out over thanksgiving break.... meh, not the point of this part of the board, sorry. I'll search around
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ok ok no w7!
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Well I was quite outbid (went for 305). I am really liking the Fi Q10 & Fi BL10
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Amp for HAT L61-2
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Posted · Edited by dlink
2 ohm, which I assumed was ok.
From the Alpine site:
From what I read, lower ohm => harder tod rive, so if it can do 2, it can easily do the L6 and L1 at 4 an 8 respectively