jcarter1885

No one can answer that with a 100% honestly but this is what will help you out: Big Three done in 1/0 gauge or bigger wire, good starting battery and good secondary battery and get a voltmeter to watch your voltage. I dont think a Hifonics BXI2010D will draw that much power to make you need more than what is listed above but that will be determined once you get this installed and going. A high output alternator may not be needed depending on how your voltage is, if your voltage drops a lot then one is needed but if its stays stable with small drops then you wont need one.

Glad you could join us and hopefully we can share car audio wisdom.

right now im just wanting to put some bump in my truck, then around Christmas i will have money to get like a 4 channel amp and then new interiors all around with tweeters. im looking to pay no more than 750 for my sub(s), and no space is not a problem. Well there are a lot of options out their for you: 2-15" SSA ICON's / FI BL's / DC Level 4's / Incrimator Audio Death Row / Soundsplinter Rl-p's / Ascendant Audio Havocs / Sundown Z-15's(on sale right now if you want them) or 1 18" SSA XCON / FI BTL / Ascendant Audio Mayhem / Sundonw Nightshade / DC Level 4 XL. There are lot of options out there but if you want to stick to FI only then I would look into either 1 18"BTL as stated or 2-15" BL's. Choice is yours and any option would do you justice in a well-built enclosure, just my .02.

Ok the most that amp will put out rms wise is 2000watts (if that, some say their underrated and others say their overrated but were not discussing that at this moment), that amp will be ok with an 18" FI BTL or 2 15" FI BL's. What other equipment will be in this car's install? Whats your budget on what you want to spend for a subwoofer? What is the max space you have to work with, you said you have a trail blazer so space should not be that much of a problem?

x2, from what was read in your first post a single 15" FI BL with BP Power and 1000-1500 rms will do you justice; I would of recommended 2 FI SSD 12"s but you said your not an SQ guy and want to get loud. just my .02

Number #1 their is no Hifonics Brutus Amp that can dish out 4000watts, whats the exact model number of amp you have so people can answer your questions better?

Hey thanks for all your responses. Yes well right now I currently have a system very modest as it just alpine type-r components front and rear with Alpine PDX 4x150W. and Alpine V12 and 1 JL Audio only 300W. I have done the big 3. Stock alt right now. I have had 0 gauge power wire ran to a a 5 farad capacitor and a distribution block in the rear, had this done in anticipation for this upgrade. I also have an optima yellowtop in their right now but I was gonna get a 2nd once I put this amp in. Yes I was gonna have someone else make the box and wire them up for me that is correct, I just want to make sure that I'm buying the right stuff before I go ahead and have it done. Will the sundown 3500 be enough for two 12" BTL's? or do I need more power than that to do them justice? Thanks Well from the sound of it in your case I would stay with the SAZ-3500d, you could get the SAZ-4500D on presale right now would do also but in the wrong hands it will be reak havoc on your subs with the headroom. Get rid of the cap also, buy another yellowtop and get an High Output Alternator.

Im sorry but that was too easy, I though someone would of beat me while I was typing it and checking the amps page on sundown just to be sure.

That 6000Rms is if you get 2 SAZ-3500D and strap them together and the final ohm load will be 2 ohms(each amp is at 1 ohm). If you get 2 Dual 2 ohms subs, you will need an amp that is 0.5 ohm stable or 2 ohms stable. If you get 2 Dual 1 ohm subs, you will need an amp that is 1 ohm stable and 4 ohms stable.

No trust me I understand what your saying and completely agree. But after reading you had a port problem(it became wider or narrower), the box needed more caulk in some areas more than other(may lead to leaks). Remember the box will be what makes or breaks this install and how well it performs or sounds thats all Im saying so eventually that 30 or 40 dollars will go along way (if you do build another box just build it and dont waste that 10dollars on covering it until you know its the box you will be keeping). Just my .02

Yeah your just one step closer, I would suggest since you have the time to build another box and make this one accurated and better than the first one.

What other equipment will be in this install? What amps will power these subs? Have you done any electrical upgrades to your vehicle?

Just curious if upgrading wire will be beneficial or waste of time and money. I have Kicker Hyperflex 1/0 wire for my Big Three and system wiring from battery to distribution blocks. At a local stereo shop this dude was telling me about the Audison MP1/0 wire (http://www.connectionaudison.com/products/cables/mp_10bl.htm) and how its better than my Kicker 1/0 wire. The Audison is $15 a foot and I get the Kicker for $7 a foot, so then I started looking at the KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Cable and wondering if anybody can break down the difference if any (I already know that the KnuKoncepts and Audison has more strands of wire but it that always a plus)? Thankx

Tell ya boy to check out the Sundown Audio SA-12"s(600RMS), some Incriminator Lethal Injections 12"(600RMS) or the SSA DCONS 12"s(300RMS) subs also on the http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/store/.

Good luck on the install and Im tuned in.

Glad I bought my SAZ-2000D instead of an AQ2200 like planned, cant wait till you get one in to do a comparison.

Okay i was wrong on size of the box. Is is 32X30X15 so thats 8.3 CUFT before displacement and ports. Is that still real small> Well how big is the box after displacement (ports, subs and bracing) and we can go from there to tell you if the box is to small but we will see. If the box's height is 15", width is 32" and depth is 30" then yeah this box might be on the small side because just with those numbers and sub displacemnt your already at 6.47ft^3 and thats not counting port area. I say rebuild the box for those two 15"s to get the most output from them, what are your max dimensions that you have to work with?

i have a nice HU right now. I just really want an f90bt(pioneer premier). It just a coin toss decision on which i should buy first. if i buy the HU first I can use it with my old subs for a while, if i buy the amp/sub first i can use it with my current HU(kenwood excelon kcd-x692, friend is letting me borrow indefinitely). Either way I'm gonna be happy. My original plan was to buy the HU first, but if i get paid enough soon, I'm gonna take advantage of some of the deals. ex. Audibel Customs free box w/sub deal, Sundown's presale deal on SAE-1200d, etc. If I don't have the cash before these sales end, I'll probably buy my new HU first. Keeping electricity, cable and water at the house is more important than the audio in my car. That's why it will take a couple of paychecks(maybe even a month or 2 per part) Basement?????LOL Baton rouge is south Louisiana. LSU has a few building with basements on hills, but most of the state is at or below sea level. Myself and a few friends will be doing the installs. We can do it individually by ourselves, but we like to get together and take too long, forget parts, and curse at vehicle panels. We do good work, but it always takes longer than expected. Oh well, that is the fun part for me. i enjoy installing stuff Im understand your situation and just like you when it comes to car audio, I buy in sections and install what I can when I can. But if you want to get rid of the radio and give it back to your friend then get the H/U because sundown is going to have the amp on presale for some months and still at a reasonable price when it comes out. By what will please you first and get your system going in the direction you want (if you buy your subs and amp right now remember box, wires, terminals, connectors, fuses and whatever else will be needed to complete the install just to listen to it). Maybe once you start working me and getting more hours you may be able to up your budget on sub and amp, who knows?

It was dumb to throw 2-15"s in that small enclosure(no offense). You will get louder with one 15 or 2-12"s in that enclosure, your choking the life out of those 15"s.

Just take your time, and work form the source to the speakers, and cancel out one thing at a time. I'll try throwing the sub on my buddies car tomorrow so I can eliminate that if possible. Will report back tomorrow. Thanks guys. Just to let you know I had this same where the bass would cut in and out when it would hit hard, so I took my system apart and found out that the ground wire for my equalizer was loose and keep popping in and out of the terminal on the EQ. I rewired and connected to where it couldnt happen again, this fixed all my problems so hopefully it is a wiring/connection problem. Good Luck

Glad you could join us Mike.

This is gonna be a nasty build, cant wait till the wood starts to get laid and glued together ( im tuned in).

Glad you could join us.

Well since you stated a budget this combo will suit you well: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/store/products/SSA-Icon-15D2-%252b-Sundown-SAZ%252d1000D-Combo.html

Thats real professional of you to come on here and give him a design for a box, I like your style. Keep up the good work and cant wait for IXL in dual 4 ohms.