Posted February 1, 200916 yr I already posted this, but it will just disappear into the oblivion in the Fi forum, and people will actually use it hear.Old info... new post...Just made a topic so you don't have to scroll through pages to find it...Ok first things first. The test was done in my car with my equipment (in signature).The box is 4.2 cubic feet net tuned to 34 hz with 57.25 in^2 of port area.Subs: 15" Havoc and 15" Q with BP option (both have embedded tinsels)Yummy pics:Here are TermLab results...Outlaw style (at the kick, both windows open)Q:Havoc:Legal (sealed up at the dash)Q:Havoc:Listening experience: To tell you the truth, unless you are a freaking machine, I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between these two drivers under the exact same circumstances. Now everything I am saying is dealing with ported enclosures; I have done no testing nor have I heard either sub sealed. I listened to everything from Nothing Left by As I Lay Dying with some sick kickdrum bass to the lows of Put On by Young Jeezy and almost no difference could be heard. The primary difference between the two is volume. You might not be able to hear much of a difference, but you can feel it. If you compare my door moving in 10 G's by Killer Mike in the two vids, it moved WAY more with the Havoc than with the Q. Definitely noticeable. The Havoc itself also seemed to move more, but that might have just been an impression. The Havoc also peaked out a little bit lower. It might be hard to see in the photos, but the Havoc got the loudest on the 33 and 32 hz tones while it was about 34 for the Q. Odd considering the Fs of the Havoc is a little bit higher. For sound quality and sealed setups, I'm sure there is a difference that would make a difference, but for the daily pounder, I'd say the Havoc is the better choice if you can get your hands on it, but the Q will do everything you want it to and more.Vids:Guess Who's Back by Mike JonesQ:Havoc:10 G's by Killer MikeQ:Havoc:My buddy's top score of the day. He hit this outlaw style with Prime Minister by Young Jeezy.(He peaks at about 43 hz or so)Fi Q 15 w/ BP on about 1000 wrms in 4.0 cubic feet tuned to 30 hz in a Chevy Colorado
May 21, 200916 yr Author I already posted this, but it will just disappear into the oblivion in the Fi forum, and people will actually use it hear.Old info... new post...Just made a topic so you don't have to scroll through pages to find it...Ok first things first. The test was done in my car with my equipment (in signature).The box is 4.2 cubic feet net tuned to 34 hz with 57.25 in^2 of port area.Subs: 15" Havoc and 15" Q with BP option (both have embedded tinsels)Yummy pics:Here are TermLab results...Outlaw style (at the kick, both windows open)Q:Havoc:Legal (sealed up at the dash)Q:Havoc:Listening experience: To tell you the truth, unless you are a freaking machine, I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between these two drivers under the exact same circumstances. Now everything I am saying is dealing with ported enclosures; I have done no testing nor have I heard either sub sealed. I listened to everything from Nothing Left by As I Lay Dying with some sick kickdrum bass to the lows of Put On by Young Jeezy and almost no difference could be heard. The primary difference between the two is volume. You might not be able to hear much of a difference, but you can feel it. If you compare my door moving in 10 G's by Killer Mike in the two vids, it moved WAY more with the Havoc than with the Q. Definitely noticeable. The Havoc itself also seemed to move more, but that might have just been an impression. The Havoc also peaked out a little bit lower. It might be hard to see in the photos, but the Havoc got the loudest on the 33 and 32 hz tones while it was about 34 for the Q. Odd considering the Fs of the Havoc is a little bit higher. For sound quality and sealed setups, I'm sure there is a difference that would make a difference, but for the daily pounder, I'd say the Havoc is the better choice if you can get your hands on it, but the Q will do everything you want it to and more.Vids:Guess Who's Back by Mike JonesQ:Havoc:10 G's by Killer MikeQ:Havoc:My buddy's top score of the day. He hit this outlaw style with Prime Minister by Young Jeezy.(He peaks at about 43 hz or so)Fi Q 15 w/ BP on about 1000 wrms in 4.0 cubic feet tuned to 30 hz in a Chevy Colorado
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