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this is by far the fastest flared port build I have ever done.....it will stay bare wood untill my Crown Amp comes back from repair then I will work on the cosmestics...build the amp rack cover and clean the wiring up not to shabby for only 1200w rms per sub ( EXILE 2400 ) everything on the rear of the enclosure by the hatch is for the front stage..(mids n tweets ).. two Exile Xi 800.4's running two channel briged ( 400w rms x 4 )

i ran one off 600w before and it still gets loud. We are just sayin the recommended power ratings are for the maximum power we would suggest, not what it wants.

Subs don't "come alive with x watts". You can power it with 1500w easily and get even better results than with 2200w if you optimise the box to the power you have. Not that you will actually hear the extra 700w. For starters, what are your goals ? Maybe the HDC isn't for you

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Just an FYI ... Impious knows his stuff .. VERY well ..

First, get the sand out of your vagina. Second, all you've accomplished thus far is to demonstrate your ignorance and complete lack of understanding of the usefulness of objective measurements and the problems associated with subjective opinions. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but that's not my fault so there's no sense in getting pissy about it with me. How do you think most speakers on the market are designed? By one guy sitting around tossing together parts until he stumbles upon something that sounds subjectively "good" to himself? No, there is extensive computer simulations and direct objective measurements made before they are brought to market. But all those dumb objective measurements are useless, so why bother, right? The work of a couple guys you may have heard of, named Thiele and Small, form the basic set of parameters used to describe every loudspeaker produced and are used extensively to determine performance related to enclosure type and volume, among other things, without having to go through and build infinite alignments and testing each one individually. But objective measurements are useless, right? How lost we would be if it wasn't for objective measurements. And how lost you are because you don't understand this. And, actually, you are the one who just came here. So I suppose if you don't like it, you can go crawl back under your rock Show me where I stated an opinion of them. Find one sentence where I stated an opinion of their performance, other than saying they'd better perform well given their price tag. Beyond that, all I said is that I'd be far more interested in seeing some objective measurements rather than listening to he-said she-said subjective statements about how great they are as those opinions are of no actual value regardless of who they came from, and that the "proof" presented so far of how great they are isn't really any "proof" at all. Now, don't you feel stupid for getting all worked up and acting like an idiot over something I never said?

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/pdfs/10_12_15W0_MAN.pdf I have mine in 2.5 tuned at 30hz.

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You still should of left it up, it would be a quick tutorial for a person with the same question in the future regardless the simplicity of the question being asked.

Ok, relax a little. He was not saying anything bad about the Blues speakers. He was speaking in factual terms that apply to all installs. And he is right about our ears. In the big picture, the total install is the impact of the end result. Meaning two different people can have the exact same vehicle and equipment, but that does not mean the end sound will be the same. There are so many factors at play, yes the quality and engineering behind a driver is very important, but there are a great deal of other installation variances that over ride that in the end, hence his example about the VW speakers.

forgot to take pics of the doors. i did them too.. but they're straight as hell. block paint block paint block paint block and paint and then everything will be perfect boss's new ride this thing is fucking nice. that woodgrain is actually paint. the guy he bought this from put like 15k into the interior. the body is original from cali. the whole car is left in 1500 grit. no buffing it looks great "flat" foam it up baby oh shit

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I really doubt you know what's going to be better for the JL motor than JL does. After all, who spent millions on R&D? You or JL? Just saying, you're pretty much ruining resale value on it as well. It's an SQ subwoofer, good at sounding good. It's not some fart machine that you cobble together using bastard parts to hit 150+dB where it doesn't matter if it sounds good or not. I never said that I was trying to hit 150+dB. I just wanted to have it rebuilt for my own personal uses not to compete or anything of the sort. I wasn't implying that you were, I was using custom recones as an example. Thanks for being so uptight about it though. Don't ask for advice if you're not going to follow any of it. x2, dude nobody is hurting you everybody is helping you. They are telling you the best place to get it reconed, simple as that. Now if you dont want to take there advice then go your own way, you should of known it would be expensive to fix it is JL Audio with special parts. Would a custom re-cone work by another group, yes but will it perform and sound the same probably not. Would it be wise to get it fixed by another company when the same company who built it can build it, no. But at the end of the day it is your money and your equipment, but stop getting your panties in a bunch from the responses you receive. Read the rules, they state: 13) If you start a thread, you must be willing to ACCEPT advice even if you don�t like it. So just take it and move on, either use the advice or lose the advice.

Where are those notes now? Doesn't look like you retained much info.

No, you get real. You've had your warnings, and now you're banned for 3-days.

WOW !!! this was a fun one ...

One question for you Stealth, if the enclosure is not part of the install then why would you even have one in the first place? You gotta install the sub into something, which is the enclosure. You gotta install the enclosure into something, which is the vehicle and so-on.

Stealth you've been here for 3 years and still haven't learned anything. The amount of time you've been a member on a forum does NOT increase your knowledge, there is no osmosis taking place here you have to actually learn the heard way.

Stealth, please chill out, name calling and being combative is not how we run things here. There is nothing wrong with a spirited debate or disagreement as long as people keep their heads and use factual information and sometimes have concrete examples to back up their statements. Take Impious' (Brad) posts in topics of disagreement, he goes point by point and throughly addresses each thing with experience (not just saying he has experience), the science or laws behind things, and sometimes factual calculations and examples to support his argument. I am not at all saying everyone needs to be as knowledgeable and skilled as Impious (if that were the case we would have less then 10k posts on here ), but we strongly prefer people take a much more scientific approach to each and every topic or question. THAT is what really sets the SSA forum apart and above all other copy-cats, plain and simple. People get pissed at ///M5 (Sean) all the time, but he is extremely consistent on working towards taking a logical and scientific approach to every problem or topic presented, that is the only way to really head in the right direction to reach the desired goal, what ever it may be. This above quoted post is very inaccurate. Install includes the enclosure/box and all equipment. The vehicle's resonant frequency will have a great deal to do with the end result. The positioning of the box (also part of install) will effect the end result. The gain settings, the HU settings, crossover settings, processor settings (if there is one), sound deadening applications and amounts, port and cone firing direction (also install), and so on. In reality, there should be no one single most important thing. Every aspect that can be controlled, with in reason and/or budget, along with how they effect each other, needs to be taken into consideration when working towards extracting maximum performance regardless of the focus or purpose of the install. Consider in the SPL game where people with far lesser expensive and lower power installs are putting up just as good if not better numbers then people who just think >> big cone + big amp = autowin. The first group of people are taking much more into consideration and using all parts they can to their advantage. All of this has to be combined with testing in the particular vehicle/install.

Nobody claim to know more than anybody or to be anyones friend on here, stop getting your panties in a bunch because people disagree with you. Its just a forum and reality, it happens (nobody has to be on your side or agree with you all the time, thats just what it is). I could go on further but no point, you let your true emotions just show and that was enough for you (if I knew everything I wouldnt be on here ).

Eh at least he spelled my name right; your entitled to your opinion Stealth, express it as you wish. OP: There really is no "Best" song for a certain woofer, you need to look at all parts of your installation to see what songs will perform best, it's subjective too ie. people like the sound (or feel) of different frequencies so there is no good answer we can give you.

Just because a good woofer has a custom recone, it doesn't mean it continues to be a good woofer with the new "custom" parts on it. Half of the time the people with those "custom" woofers don't even know the T/S parameters of the woofers they've created (or purchased). The performance of a subwoofer is a result of the sum of it's parts. A good motor without the original parts but instead a "custom recone" done will not necessarily have performance anywhere close to the original. You are assuming the performance will be identical between the two. This is not necessarily the case. Just because you tossed a recone into the motor of a w6v2 does not mean you will have performance equivalent to that of a w6v2 unless you used parts identical to the original. So no, you are not necessarily going to get the "same thing" for $100 instead of $250. You may have an operational subwoofer, but that doesn't mean it will be equal in performance to a w6v2 just because you used that motor. LOL....yeah, right. So, tell me, how about did you go about designing this new custom driver to improve results over the original? I've ranted about this before, but this ridiculous "recone boner" going around the forums leaves n00bs like yourself under the delusion that anyone can just mix-n-match parts onto a motor and come out with great results. It's not the case. Half of the people with these "custom subs" wouldn't know a good subwoofer design or performance from their arseho, yet they parade around the forums about how great their sub is because it's "custom". There is a reason subwoofer companies spend months to years designing and testing a subwoofer before bringing it to market. It's not because they are just randomly tossing parts together like so many of these "custom recones". LOL. All this name calling and putting custom build companies down really cracks me up. Lalala noob this lalala noob that, the woofer wont perform the same this, that and the next, whatever. Um, noob is this a new word for you or something, notice its been thrown around a lot lately. Anyway, everyone has their own opinion on everything and I guess you have yours, but I also have mines. So you do you and ill do the same. Thanks for the input though.

you can look on the internet and find the old IASCA test cds, FOCAL reference disc, SHEFFIELD LABS, USACI test and tune disc. Disc like these will give you all the range any stereo can handle. (SQ and SPL) My Favorite is the Focal Reference disc, not cheap, but then again, worth it !!! If you really want to test your system to its limits, get you a VERY GOOD recorded pipe organ music disc. You will locate all your problems in a matter of minutes. Just a suggestion, Hope this helps ...

Where are those notes now? Doesn't look like you retained much info. haha your the very one. trust me, i still got them notes. but guess what, i have never since my years here took a note from something you posted. i never see any posts of yours worth my time.

wow the first person to give info on the topic other than me and denim. good job. everyone on this thread was just talking shit to the op before they tried to talk shit about me. +!

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