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Guess you guys scared the OP off. He hasn't even replied back to anybody or corrected what he actually meant. I guess he does want to bang down the neighborhood like some of you said.Either way its his system and if that's what he wants to do then so be it.Just remember that next time your getting pretty new pavement put down in your neighborhood that he contributed to it LoL. I know because I was that guy back when I was 16. Got multiple tickets for my music.Even had a cop tell me I was shaking his radar on the dash. Everybody does things different and we can't knock them for it just have to accept what their doing until their doing it in front of your house. Otherwise just offer the man some advice and try not to be dicks completely about it.

I bet over half the people in this thread ride around with the windows down with their shit banging. I dont agree with going through neighborhoods with music loud and I dont, but if you have multiple large subs then your main concern is not clean it sounds inside your vehicle, LOL. Sometimes this place seems so high and mighty. Cut people some slack sometimes. OP, anything between 30 and 35 will work with that sub if it has the right airspace.

Well guys.. I'm fucked. I can get 1200$ or possibly more if they total the truck.

Port displacement is the total space that is used for the port along with the wood. For example: port width: 4", port height: 6", port length: 8", 4x6x8= 192in^2 + the actual displacement of the wood used for the port.

What exactly are you asking?

Found 2 20$ bills on the pocket of a jacket I haven't worn since spring.

I like the L sectional idea.

REBUILD MONEY! Bought my kids a bounce house and I keep it in the house! Buss bar in progress It all comes out Take that box! Epic Box design thanks JAY-C76 Batts and buss bars but they will be switched to copper waiting on the place to get the flat stock in.

i didnt -1 anything tough guy........ I mean the one comment ya bro but to me theres a difference between sarcasm and disrespect and you came back talking smack like it has anything to do with you...... pics will be up but I own and operate two companies. one which I customize cars. Ill have some pics up for you btw have you checked out your build log I believe the first five pages or so are chatting. this is a rebuild so what you want me posting pics of a van you already seen? thats a waste of space hey wait you and that have something in common a waste of space I can dish as well as receive but throw a smiley in there once in a while bro and dont come at me about what I drive. I did it for the simple fact I have kids and want to have a toy but if I need to drive them somewhere with my wife being gone in hers. Thanks for the confidence IAK!

Sounds like a great build!!

Something must be wrong with my laptop, I cant see any of the pictures.

Man best car audio forum out there in my opinion. Great members and a plethora of information.

Sundown is an American Based Company so his money stays in the good ol' USA! American HQ ya...but none of their products are made here, money goes to china for them to make the stuff. Sundown is a great company and makes great products just not a fan of china

I had the same problem with my audio control eqs called up audio control they sent me a 30hz ssf chip and I was happy again. Take the cover off the epicenter and see if the chip is interchangeable like the eqs. The chip was 6$.

whos saying he wants to be heard from far in residential areas? what if he wants to be heard at a meet or soundoff? yet another useless post.

Napolean complex? Grow up.

I recommend you be respectful with your stereo. No one wants to hear your music.

cry baby. here -1 this one too. guess you can dish out a little but cant take it.

And further defines the problem in SQ competitions. As always, it depends on what your goals are. Personally if you are doing it, you might as well move your mids up high on both pillars and make a center pod so that they are all at the same level. And then of course I'd only use it for movies which I don't watch in a car so the reasoning is dubious. Of course for some reason you also seem to use rears which is equally as dubious so I say go for it if it makes you happy.

Center channel implies processing. And mono isn't processing. Same with rears though.

Ideally, there is no "rear ambience." That would simply be a reflection, something you don't want. Of course if you find a judge(s) who like this, it's better for you.

I you have it in a IMAX theatre, why shouldn't it be in your vehicle ?? Wouldn't be the same if it was missing ... DO you sit in your truck to watch movies? Are you competing in the "best theater experience" class of "SQ" ocmpetitions? . . . Because a theater is used for viewing movies and their sound systems are set up to reproduce sound recorded for movies, not music. Movies are not recorded in stereo, there are microphones surrounding the entire set or it is processed in via computer during editing. It's already been mentioned that music is recorded in stereo aside from DVDA or CDA, but good luck finding the stuff. Nobody is saying you can not do it, and others have with success, but we get into the objective versus subjective debate yet again, like always and any time you bring judging and human ears into the equation, all objectivity goes out the window.

In Randy's defense with appropriate attention given to the setup, rear speakers can be a valuable addition to a stereo sound system. A bandpassed, time delayed, attenuated, L-R signal sent to the rear speakers can add things like ambiance and width ques to the sound stage in a stereo setup. Yes, the stage should be in front of you, but not everything you hear from that event comes from in front of you. You can have delayed reflections coming from behind you due to the space the event is recorded/performed in, etc. It also depends on bandwidth.....at certain frequencies (i.e midbass and subbass), your brain can't identify direction. So having the speakers in front of you or behind you is indifferent as far as your perception goes as long as the time arrival is the same. The speakers in the GN and Harry's Acura were likely lowpassed low enough that front/rear direction was indistinguishable. So then they just had to worry about time arrival (and mounting them at a proper width) to obtain a good stage. Harry's I believe were in the rear deck, Clark's GN had the in the rear quarters. Just because it isn't listed on the website that either of the systems used time alignment doesn't mean they didn't use time alignment.....there are a lot of things "unknown", in dispute or not published about Clark's GN, for example. Even today there are disputes about what speakers the vehicle used and where they were located. As far as I know, Randy's present system doesn't apply the proper processing to the rear speakers for them to function ideally as ambiance speakers. And they aren't lowpass low enough or time aligned in a manor in which they would do nothing but add to the primary midbass. So if he's happy with it, more power to him but it's not the way I would go about doing things. I tried to explain some of the issues with his center channel idea. I know he gets upset with M5, so I try to play nice and give him suggestions and explain things without being condescending......but it seems more times than not, he is already dead set on the idea or why his idea will "work" when it's not the best way to go about doing things. So, I think I'm probably done trying to help him.

Exactamundo. Classic to his response to everything, might even ask the right people but misapplies what he thinks he learned terribly. Same is going to happen here or for anything in his car for that matter. He's proven over and over again to not think, nor listen, but draw conclusions that are inappropriate and stick to them. Of course I said the same thing earlier: And instead of asking for clarification or to understand we got an emotional defensive response that is also misrepresented rehash of something he heard somewhere else talking about ambience which amusingly, straight from Google shows the problem. Addition of noise, is not beneficial ever IMO. am·bi·ence noun /ˈambēəns/  ambiances, plural; ambiences, plural 1. The character and atmosphere of a place * - the relaxed ambience of the cocktail lounge is popular with guests 2. Background noise added to a musical recording to give the impression that it was recorded live

Since you all brought it up, who is correct here ?? Impious said that rears was a valuable addition to a stereo sound system. M5 said that rears are not beneficial ever IMO. read much?? I said "addition of noise is not beneficial ever". Of course if you disagree with that feel free to share why.

When I see someone propose a plan that isn't necessarily the best route to accomplishing their goals or taking an idea down a less desirable path , I try to give suggestions on how to improve the idea in order to improve the potential success of their results. Obviously you would rather do things your way than accept suggestions that could either save you time or improve your results.....so ignore us and install away. To put things a little more literally, I believe your rear install would be classified as the "added noise" situation. Which IMO is also not beneficial, or if it is perceived as beneficial in your particular installation then it means there are significant problems elsewhere in the install/tuning. You are trying to put our two statements at odds.....when they aren't.

Or dual switches. I'd just take it out though. The Epicenter's do nothing good, but I also really, really don't understand why you'd want fake notes in your music.

I listen to a ton of music without bass, so I listen to it without bass. Novel idea

cry baby! im out of the game...... GLAD TO SEE YOUR BACK!

hahahahahaha someone gave me a negative on my comment.... What am I supposed to write hey man sorry that this happened my heart goes out to you and your fam...... DOM CALLED ME BEFORE THIS THREAD EXISTED! So whoever gave me the negative I LOVE IT! cause you have no clue! hahahahahahahahahahahaha BANGINGMC will go through and equal it out..... its all good! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

seems to me that you guys are sharing the HATORADE! I drive a SS camaro and a new silverado. YOU ride the short bus. im not a hater i just think this thread is a little retarded and shouldnt be in the build log section.