That's what Dr. Subwoofer would do. LOL. Thank you M5/// (or deephaven, or what ever you go by these days) for those kind words of encouragement ... Happy 5th birthday BTW ... I kinda figured you say something like this, So I kinda went back to see what your SSA / CA-F Supervisor (and mine for that matter) had to say about this product at the CES Show ... Care to Check out the whole thread ... click here: http://www.caraudio-forum.com/forum/topic/14539-ces-trip/ M5///, Quit being so subjective ... Enjoy ... Whatever, still junk for the money. More than obvious from the parts, the build quality, the responses on other forums. Pretty easy to even make $10 Daytons sound good in a car if you know what you are doing so the subjective response from anyone isn't impressive to me. Considering that Blues has a manufacturers section on Dr. Subwoofer's forum is enough for me. LOL