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so in my inbox i get a question im guessing trying to troll me... Truconcept: how many value meals do u order for yourself at a time? dont Pm me little girl. if you have something to say, say it to where every one can see it so i can make you look like the little bitch you are, you think that i dont know im fat you dumb mother fucker, i call my self bigjon you moron, funny tho i guess you think you have some kind of NEW fat jokes and in some 16 year old cocksucker manor you going to cut me down and SHOW ME WHOS BOSS.. you have another thing coming you little shit, you think your the first little piss ant to some at me side ways on the internet tol make your self feel cooler? ha .. the fact is i have what you wish you had, i do what you wish you could , your a jealous little ass fag and HATES to see a fat man carry him self the way i do.... yeah im a prick.. and i tell it how it is. i call it as i see it.. like i told you if you have a problem with me contact a mod, and take care of it!!! but you wont.. your a little cunt, and you have been a waste of space scene you joined this forum, good day

duck tails.. one of the best songs EVER made.

Look in the classifieds. You will get more value for your money with purchasing a used product.

I have replied to your email Ben.

I'm mobile I must have accidentally hit it my apologiesCan't neg on mobile

VW ftw , more pics http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5631086-Change-your-oil-kids

Better question, how do you know it will have a good one? If you aren't following then you are a bigger idiot. Who "designs" something they think there is no market for? As for the neo 8 side of it, that is not a benefit. Surely you could explain the reasons why you chose it, in particular if it wasn't for marketing. What way is that? Citing an example requires some clarification.

come on down to austin texas and well talk about it

here ill hook you up

i chilled only because you asked...

Tinsel leads have been the weak point of subs since day 1 in my opinion. At first they would just break. people would just solder wire to fix this issue. Then sandwiched leads User cannot fix broken leads and possibility of fire Now sewn on leads User can fix broken leads and possibility of fire. Have amps been changing that much? Not really. When people say cheap amps, i would think the components in the amp are cheap and are likely to fail faster. The tolerances could be out of wack, but not by a great margin because that would cause other components in the amp to fail faster. So I disagree with saying amp A caused this and Amp B doesn't have that issue I do agree that an amp will do what it is told to do regardless of brand.

I need to measure my ass. It has a lot of flow and mass.

your so slow,. but ok .. if you wanna take the "serious" path now that you look like a child. then i dont really eat that much. infact my skinny little g/f eats more then me and MUCH MUCH faster.... but as where you only drink 1 drink with your huge meal.. i drink alot with my normal size slow meal... im fat . have been all my life, but im also 6'3 9 inch hands and a size 16 shoe. so im BIG AND FAT. and even if i were not fat i would still be bigjon jerk off. and to rest you theroys im not diabetic and i have an active job ( i move around alot.)

uh huh...

If it doesn't have caffeine it is fake

BigJon riled up with only 8 posts. lol. congrats Phantom. new record. (All love Jon)

He makes sure there is no clipping present in any of his songs. (it is possible that there are a few songs out of hundreds that are clipped but that's only because he couldn't find a non-clipped original version of the song, but even then he tries to 'clean' up the song)

Isn't a good thing for customers to have a wide range to choose from? I don't mind more products for the same application as that usually results to lower prices. There are so many components that are alike, but does that bother the customer? (it doesn't bother me)

The power handling does not allow you to use a smaller enclosure, the smaller enclosure requires more power to obtain the same output as an otherwise more efficient (read larger) enclosure. So the only thing that makes your driver different is the neo?

so subwoofer build error and amp build error is out of the question? companies make mistakes FI basically blames large korean amps sending microwaved signals but OP has a quality sundown..... if all but 1 had a coating then there's still no way for them to touch each other and short out OP even noticed something funny about the sub before the fire It has nothing to do with the sub itself, really. Even though his amp is a Sundown, it still operates on the exact same principles as any other amp. To add to what Nick said, what typically happens is that the high frequencies of the power supply that convert the vehicles 12v power to the +/- higher voltage for the amp to create it's output with doesn't get filtered like it should. Now whether it's by shotty design (cheap amps) or as the case may very well be here that something in the amp has failed, it's still the same cause. The OP may be able to test for it by connecting a DMM with frequency measurement and ACV to the output of the amp with no RCA's attached. If he sees a high frequency on the output and is able to measure anything above a minimal (< tenths of a volt) amount of AC voltage then he definitely has an issue with the amp. The best test would be with an O-scope, but not many people have those lying around. Fi sub or not, I think this would have happened and I'm sure it's related directly to a failure in the amp itself.

Absolutely not. First off not everyone wants loud. Second, making cone area smaller doesn't at all fit anything you described. yea like i said car audio companies trying to produce smaller while keeping louder output for the small/new car guy with size limits Dumb way of going about that and we all know that isn't the reason. The reason is that there are confused buyers like yourself that think that creating a market for an otherwise somewhat misplaced and mostly useless driver. I am not saying there are no applications for 8's. There is a time and a place for everything, but the reality is that most of these drivers are completely misused in the install they are in providing less than logical results. Some other clarifications. -Weight is an idiotic differentiator. Even if you track your car an extra 5lbs makes no difference. Sure if it is an F1 car, but then audio would be non-existent. -Space limitations are regularly thrown out the window. Designing an 8 for ANYTHING other than a sealed alignment is absolutely retarded. -Having ridiculous power handling is also not a logical goal. Considering doubling power is barely audible designing for power instead of response just goes to show you how idiotic the market is for these sorts of drivers. All of these things equate to what? The reality that most people interested in high power 8's are seriously confused. IMO this is going to be made even worse by the fact that the visual design of this woofer was chosen to be "cool" instead of worrying about performance factors that actually make sense. Of course to defend Phantom, they chose this design because they are sure they can sell it. If that logic makes you want to buy it then by all means hop on the wagon to nowhere. Hard to knock a company for designing what a market requests even if the market is stupid.

I see that and raise you this. J

ERMAGERD!!!!!! NOSTALGIA OVERLOAD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0PzqF9gWY

Oh shit I don't have money for this.....Dimensions (or a link to them) on the horns?

Arthur is going to be 7 tomorrow. I cannot believe it.

Sounds more like an abuse problem than a warranty claim to me.

Install, install, install.

isn't the goal of car audio companies to make small packages very loud? i see amps getting smaller and smaller people doing 145+ off 2 sundown 8's 500 watt rms subs knocking rear view mirrors off i thought this is the future of car audio The goal of every company is to make money. Rear view mirrors have been getting knocked off since the inception of car audio when even a 100 watt was an insane amount of power.

That sexiness has made me sprout wood LOL

Feeling the whole build but the what you did with the tablet and EQ looks so clean man, good stuff!

nah fool you know what your doing. i dont care your just setting the tone for your visit here at SSa.

oh looky there MR phantomz learned how to use the negative button! keep marking this shit negative ill shit on all your post.

i have not had any problems with any of his songs and i have checked out some of his songs and did not find any clipping of the bassline.

well if you read back you were asked and you replied with out responding to the question. and in the rules its stated to introduce your self in the newbie sign in, either way. right on. now that has been ironed out. so where are your woofer built?

Just going by the name and the fact that he's from Olympia makes it fairly obvious. Not sure why he wouldn't say that though.

pretty sure he was talking about the Jl manual, and so MR phantom from phantom soundz this this your woofer? its still unclear you seem to be side stepping the question.

It weighs 15 lbs, even though the manual states 17. Weight is not an issue here. It gets down to the 20s in-car in .65 cubes and only needs a couple hundred watts. I understand your point, but there's nothing special about this driver other than it's appearance, and even that is not special. It's just another chinese driver in an already saturated market, like the Sundown.

That AA V2 is ugly as hell in my opinion. Obviously performance is more important than looks though.