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Not to mention it has shit ass products installed in it. It is now worth nothing because of that install

I prefer the Jim Breuer approach to stress relief BINKBINKBINKBINKBINKBINK

Bright purple!

Sounds quite good actually.

The Evil is a different breed of sub. I know every time I am listening to good music the Evil just starts hurting my ears and trying to tear my 4runner apart!

which vvme are those 1000watt or 800watt? Like the videos phatboi. First one was the best nothing better then a system walk through CLEAN AS HELL on the install specially the battery bank and the ground pounder! nm found out 1000watt.

I mean, the 12" ICON could be used in the enclosure I mentioned, but it sure won't be running at it's optimum performance capabilities. The 10" ICON could definitely get to it's optimum performance. The 12" ICON sealed may really surprise you. There's been plenty of SSA customers who've used the ICON's sealed and had no complaints on the output. Another, more costly option, would be to go with a passive radiator for the 12. Though I'm not sure how much good a PR setup does with only one PR matching the driver's size, but it would be another possible option I would think. I'm currently working on one for a 10" XCON for my Jimmy. I'm just listing the other options because I'd hate for you to get the ICON and not enjoy it.

Its a POS GM vehicle, you couldn't pay me to drive that thing. I'll stick with driving around in my "tin can"

Now this is cool ... (quoted from CA-F) Absolutely ...

That is awesome. Added to the bucket list, restore an old car.

1. http://soundsolutionsaudio.com/index.php/donate.html 2. http://store.soundsolutionsaudio.com/search.php?search_query=sticker&x=-1115&y=-150

Gotta be some high school joke or something.

:happybirthday:

Looks great Nem!

Special color.

Little more progress. Ready for carpet and lining on the inside.

RECONE IS HERE!!!

Interior ... Well, there isn't any ... LOL What do you think about our temporary gas tank ?? It works !!! As soon as the primary things are done to make this a running / driveable vehicle ... This will be my first place to start rebuilding and customizing !!! As you can see, we have plenty of room to work with when we get ready to set her up for stage and image !!!

HBD

Apparently when I reply to an email with something along the lines of this: The factory is a little backed up due to the huge spring rush. They are working as fast as they can with out sacrificing quality. As soon as we have an update, we will update your order status. It means email me back everyday asking the same question on order status.

Happy Birthday!

Wow, I go out of town for an alumni event for the weekend, and BLAM! It should be obvious why I don't say what our costs are, but yes, they are drastically more costly to build our sub woofers here in the USA then overseas. It is a mixture of comical and frustrating when competitor's sub woofers that are built overseas. As mentioned earlier, there is few aspects that really effect our build costs that others are not doing. The CNC machining of motors/poles is a huge portion of our build cost per sub woofers. Many brands will just use nuts as spacers between the motor stack and the basket, but our sub woofers are using spiral axis cooling channels on the pole. This does a number of things for superior cooling of the coil, but that is a different topic, what maters here is the time and cost on the CNC machine for each one built. Because of that extra care, time and effort, it cannot be easily done in mass quantities. Also, when not turning a large margin on our products, it means we have less to play with when it comes to expanding our company. It does piss me off when some fool says our products are over priced, they truly haven't a clue and need to be slapped. People have been asking me for a number of years now why we don't have amps or a full line up of mid's and highs etc. This is because the standard now is for someone with no audio background, to just call up a build house overseas, use a credit card and a pre-order, and TADA with in 18-24 months they have a full line up of sub woofers, amplifiers and more. I don't want our brand to be like that. Sure, our growth has been much less rapid as all the new offerings that show up every year, and sure Mark and I are not putting anywhere near what we would like into our pockets due to the higher build cost and much lower volume of sales, but we have near-ZERO warranty failure, a very strong return customer base, and the assurance of one of the highest levels of quality of materials and performance from our sub woofers to every customer that picks SSA for their sub woofer needs. We are trying to take the superior, long term thinking approach to these other brands that show up out of no where, as there is much more time and effort invested into each and every one of our sub woofers. It means we are not killing it in the bank account or hitting the golf course in the middle of the day, or expanding into new major markets overseas etc.. One perfect example, was the beautifully explained break down of the Xcon above. In short, the CNC machining, the addition of a shorting ring (long coil, so inductance was brought down a little) and the much more steel used (instead of a simple triple stack), creates a better sub all around and that is a powerful piece of mind. It is a very good thing to know and to have, even if we are not making much from each unit sold. We run with a very low overhead and keep our expenses to a minimum. Having our sub's machined and built here in the USA (even using steel from California), just does not matter to the masses anymore. The wildfire virus of the American consumer, is the extreme short shortsightedness and only seeing initial price to them, and not the long term. It is more then about keeping more of the money from the purchase price here in the USA, it is also understanding the higher level of quality and performance they are getting. We do gain a number of customers who had a shorter then liked, life span of their prior sub woofer that was made overseas. So in short, to sort of answer the first question, the factors that go into the costs of our products: place of build (USA) {cost of labor etc.}source of materialsquality of materialsquality of partsextra steps taken for better performancethe details in many of the modelslow volume salesmade-to-order production

Big amounts of orders are flowing out of the factory this week. I will be updating orders as I get caught up.

Looks good, jealous of the air tools.

Surprise, it is a sale! It is a quick sale across the store. Coupon code at checkout: 36HOUR10% Ends tomorrow (Sunday 28th), at 11:59pm

Welcome to SSA. I am in Baltimore.

From the photo's, it appears to just be cosmetic damage from shipping.

For the Icon, we wanted to bump up the motor strength with the new model, we could add a shorting ring down the road after sometime and modeling/testing etc. with an updated version. But it will only add more machining time and more cost to an already VERY costly to build driver in it's respective market segment, for factional gains in lowered inductance that customers have not shown any signs of wanting yet. The Evil plays so flat and clean as it stands, it does not need it. Side note, the Evil needs less juice to get up and rolling from the start then the Zcon. It is unfortunate that sound quality is an after thought for most buyers. Which I am sure is why the market is more biased towards spl. I would love to see Klippel results for all SSA drivers That would answer a few questions some folks have like myself. Just because the market does not demand the SQ I prefer, that does not mean in the slightest we over look it or ignore it in our sub woofers. In general, SQ biased sub woofers, usually need greater development time, higher levels of accuracy in construction due to it that part of the market being so spec driven, tighter tolerances, etc. etc. etc. All leading to much higher build costs. With that said, the internet market is blindly ruled by RMS ratting relative to price. Hence why our original Gcon approach was shelved due to the pricing having to be up in the Icon range. We do have Klippel test results from the original Icon, but that machine is no longer in unbiased hands. Would much rather have Sean (///M5) with access to superior testing equipment be sent some models for test results, but then again, that would cost a good chunk of money we do not have to spend.

Really do like the matte blacked-out mod's.

Where did you send the email? I am mostly caught up. Your order will require additional shipping to Canada, but the sub's will ship out from NY. Mark has been out of town for a few days (where your subs are), his flight home has been delayed a few times. Soon as he is home, he will catch up with any questions that were sent to him.

As this topic has run it's course and served it's purpose, I am closing it. All of this was over just a few orders that were knocked out of order due to a mistake at the build house that was and still is costly for us, it upset some customers and caused tremendous stress and long nights making sure all customers got what they ordered. A few things: This is completely NOT the norm with the time lineThis was only a few ordersThe factory has corrected the issueThe factory has added staffThe factory is in a new and larger locationBuild / lead times are getting less and less each weekWhen the factory is able to, we will have a small inventory built up again

I can just imagine. K2 I was curious if they did as I would guess....which is to design a sub with huge (claimed) excursion, and then set the T/S in such a manor that it's only useful in ported enclosures which sort of nullifies the entire necessity of huge excursion limits. I'll reserve the rest of my comments until after seeing the T/S. Ha, the reservation isn't founded, otherwise they T/S would have already been posted. Anyone who ever orders anything as a pre-order without full disclosure of specifications is getting screwed and misled. I'll bet money the driver is going to be absolutely effed. That's the way of the internet market YO! Pre-orders on products no one has heard due to no actual production model being in existence. ~~~~~ On a serious note, in the last 5-7 years or so, (was just discussing this with SDY), it is not about research and development (not referring to this sub as I cannot speak much on it) in general. The market has swung to mostly "OH look, NEW and SHINY!!! MUST HAVE NOW!" Hence so many pre-orders from completely new companies with no product, only to be followed by successive pre-orders. Now, there are some companies that can actually afford the product run that they are offering a pre-order too (Sundown and Crescendo might be the ONLY two I can think of) most all others are using the pre-order funds to finance the first build run of product. Meaning, there is no need to start a company, build any equity or savings to start product development, when the customers can pay for it from the get go.

You are the guy that buys the two small pepperoni pizzas for three bucks more than the large even though it is 15% less food. you are the 1 of the guys that scares away the potential new customer with your attitude problem Because he is trying to correct wrong information while being helpful?

Pup spotted! Austin, fun car for sure. I would highly suggest some sound deadening for it. From my experience, it makes a world of difference in those cars. Also, stay on top of oil levels and tire wear, if you don't already know that.

I can see that a few people don't understand how good a value they are getting in a Fi sub, along with customization ability and being MADE & MACHINED IN THE USA. I need to finish writing Clinton's Iron Law...

It has been a while. The most major change I've done recently is wrapping my steering wheel with genuine(or real or whatever) leather. Then hand stitch it with white thread to match the car and other parts of the interior I am about to change. Test piece Before What happens when your hands are slightly wet Making holes, no thread in the needle First piece done Making a pattern for the more complex shapes Connection stitch with black thread. It will be will be touched more, and if it was white, after a while it was bound to get dirty.

If by "extremely meticulous" you mean we expect T/S parameters (which describe the behavior of the loudspeaker) to be reasonably accurate so that we can actually use them for their intended purpose, which is to accurately predict the behavior of the loudspeaker and just as importantly predict the behavior of the loudspeaker in a given enclosure......then yes, I guess we are "extremely meticulous". When you release T/S parameters that not only lack mathematical consistency but are also completely illogical then yes, that's sort of a big deal considering the purpose of the T/S parameters and the simplicity involved in accurately measuring them with today's technology. If you don't understand their use, the usefulness behind being able to accurately model a loudspeaker and understand it's behavior through the use of T/S parameters......then you are missing out on a pretty important part of the subject.

change of plans.... turns out im not cut out for team skar..... i emailed for an application for teaming and i got this in reply "the team is waiting come on it" no thanks. umm ill stick with what i have.

That doesn't happen here anymore. He abused his privileges and then they were taken from him.

I kind of like SSAs skar section. It is the only place on the web that potential buyers can see the truth.

kevin posted the new baskets on face book.... and i comented " wow.. i bet of sundown started putting cock on there subs so would skar" ..... it got deleted but its true... what ever jacob does shit head just back doors his ideas.

no doubt if you ask him a technical question you will be ignored... and if you ask on a public place other then SSA your post will be deleted !

Yes, correct. I don't know whats going on with Skar Audio, but if this is how they are going to support or lack thereof, days for them are numbered. Sad. You will never get accurate specs from skar. Kevin has posted specs on ither products, but they were proven very wrong.