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First let me start by saying my enclosure was not built for doing big numbers in mind, its a music box that plays damn near like a HT setup. This is strictly for fun and because the Ethos had to come out because I'm selling it to offset cost of the bigger build. My friend let me use his SP4 that is less than a year old until I pull it all out. The enclosure 3.65cu net tuned at 29hz with 44sqin of port. The amp and power Crescendo BC2000, 225amp alt and two group 34 batteries. Ethos 15 Dual 2ohm (wired at 1ohm) only pulling a max 60 amps of current according to the fluke clamp. SP4 fully loaded Dual 1ohm (wired at .5 ohm) pulling a max 83 amps of current I installed my Ethos 15 last weekend. The sub isnt even broke in all the way yet so I believe it will still get alittle louder over time. The biggest thing I notice is how clean it plays and how much it loves the lows. Yes my box is tuned low so that is expected but the sub does a great job of digging deep. The higher notes do equally well and Im sure in a higher tuned setup it would be different. With all music played it does just fine, rock, rap, country, dubstep, etc) Overall I love the way the Ethos sounds and performs and handles the 2k without even trying. The SP4 is probably my favorite sub I have ever used, they play so clean, loud and low and I was doing big numbers out of a low tuned wall with 18's before so I am kinda partial. (although that outlook may change over time ) Big thanks to Teric (Nadicle) for bringing over the meter and hanging out while we tested and did the direct swap. First I had the Ethos in, we rode up the road and started playing. Sounded good and was doing 2db louder than the FI Q that was previously in the same box and in my other F250 (basically same setup) Then we came back switched in the SP4 knowing we had to wire it lower at .5. I honestly was expecting to see a big increase and didnt think it would be close because of the extra power going to the SP4. Well here are the results. Take them as you wish but I think you will all see the potential of the Ethos. Mic on windshield drivers side, pass side windows down. Found the peak to be 35hz, barely its so flat. Ethos at 35hz.......................... 142.19db (at 1 ohm) SP4 at 35hz..............................142.83db (at .5 ohm) Now here is a shocker, song is "Hood Nigga" by KangarouX, better have big boy pants on to play this one full tilt. Ethos at 22hz............................138.2db SP4 at 22hz...............................136.8db In the kick the SP4 did have a 1db increase over the Ethos, but all things considered..................... Ethos at 35hz in kick Outlaw style.............. 142.3 SP4 at 34hz.................................................143.8 I realize the are complete different subs and both could be said to not be in the best enclosure for either sub. But just for a side by side drop in comparison the Ethos surprised both of us. This goes to show it doesnt take a 600 dollar sub to get the job done.

how power is distributed in the circuit is easily explained http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor#Theory_of_operation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits

Texas will be representing DSS loud and proud!

Well this past weekend did not go quite as planned. There was going to be 4 people (not counting me and my dad) running sanders. Well, it ended up with 3 counting me. So insted to taking stuff off of the car like I planned, we just sanded our asses off all day Saturday and half of Sunday. We got just about the entire car down to bare metal. Some unsuspected things (not with the car) happened and we did not get a chance to get started on actual body work. So all that got done was sanding all of the surface rust off of the vehicle and applying a fresh coat of Primer. In all, A VERY productive weekend on the ole Car !!! Sorry for the shitty phone pics. Forgot to pack the Digi-Cam Now with the surface rust all gone and a fresh coat of "this is gonna show EVERY imperfection on the vehicle" primer applied, we can now focus on what actually needs to be repaired and/or replaced. Basically now the body work begins !!! Bout the only MAJOR wwork that needs to be done is "waist down" so to speak. Rock pannels, lower fenders, ect. Top half of the car is in great shape !!! Thank God !!! I'm on call this comming up weekend and it's mother's day / the Wife's Birthday the next weekend. So it will be 3 weekends before I can get the Car back into the Body Shop. But I do have some other things That I can do to the inside of the vehicle until then. So bear with me guys !!! I'm working on it !!!

damn! looks like ill hit you up in September

Sexterra and Leedoggs you both have valid points. Sexterra I was leaning more towards SQ with low tuning and use wood dowels like you said. Also, do you think that pocket hole jig will be better than staples? Leedogg, I did used Herculiner before on mdf. Came out good with two coats. I really didn't know if that Baltic Birch would swell, but was going just paint (oil based) it if I went that route.

Host your photos to photobucket or a site like it or create a photo album in your SSA gallery and upload the pictures their. Then copy the image url and past them in the post box using the image code.

im surprised the ethos was louder at 22 hz

Car left on a trailer today, couldn't be happier that it went to a home that wants to drive her, and fix her and has the means to do it. Cash in pocket feels good, but I miss her already.

They way you started this thread and are going about it, is what is causing all this backlash. Nobody cares if your the loudest trunk with xcons, even if you are. Try being the loudest trunk car then people will probably care. Search youtube as there are people who are on their running xcons, who probably dont come on this forum. There is another dude who just installed 2 Xcons in the trunk but hasnt even gotten them metered yet, you can see his build log on here.

He already made a post just like this one...only this one is even less informative, he said in the previous post: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/62235-want-a-better-system/ ...as I stated in the last post: "Most importantly what is your electrical system like? Big 3? H/O alternator? Nice Battery(s)? That is where all good systems begin, next would be a quality install of your chosen equipment." I will add to that... Dang near ANYTHING and EVERYTHING from this forum and these stores will out-perform your Rockford Fosgate T2...If you want quality your looking in the right place. SSA, DSS, Fi, IA...all of em. We at this forum can't, don't and won't knowingly make blind suggestions about what might be the best equipment for you or your vehicle, with out knowing some facts about your vehicle, it's electrical system, what you have had, what you do have, and what it is you will ultimately want.

I've seen similarities in Skar and CT so I've stayed far away. From what I can tell they both are young guys who know basically nothing about car audio and just throw products together from China and Korea. That being said audiotechnix/ctsounds wire and deadener is very affordable and for the price it don't think you can get much better. This is purely my opinion though and from the information I've gathered.

Ze racecar is out for the year

I had the gcon in my 4runner in the same box on 1500 watts so I figued on the Zed it would be a lot less, but to my suprise it was not.

The Focus is finished and sounds pretty damn good. The only things left is to make a beauty panel to hide the wires. Those little Zed amps suprised the shit out of me. The gcon hits pretty damn hard on that small amount of power.

2000 pages in the new hop!

wow this shit is crazy. I cant even begin to even understand what these people are even saying.

I like Coleman Coolers :

i heard coleman and kevin were lovers.....

CT sounds = Coleman Thedinger ... That alone should raise a "red flag", the guy has no idea on how to design or engineer a thing. His past actions on his so called sound dampener venture was enough to know to keep a distance. Shop elsewhere, you'll be glad you did.

fuck CT sounds.

was gonna say there is gonna be some pissed off people if he receives his order that fast lol

^^^ I definitely agree that you need to look more into the front stage and the midbass setup than at the sub. The majority of everything that you hear from a drum set rests in the midbass region. Sure, there's plenty of bass there but it lies mostly in the harmonics and the deeper bass notes overlap the bass and midbass regions. The subwoofers can and should help with this but the entire duty shouldn't rest solely on them.

Not following? Same Shit Different Day. Just another company playing with the same boards.

Can you guys help me out I want a better system some 15s I was thinking 2 of the z 4s with a saz3500 idk how that would work I want to spend 3 grand I already have wiring kit and head unit.

I will echo what I said before. My CT4k is good and does well over rated power. More so than the nendo 5500 it replaced. Now I have 2 and both work great. I've yet to come across a single proof post of someone actually blowing/smoking the amps that hooked one up correctly. Everything I've seen is hearsay and people that remember something about something. Truth is Coleman never said that his board shared anything with any of the RD amps. Someone else put that out there that happened to see it and put that assumption together on Caco and Facebook. While the dude could possibly be a douchebag or a loser, that remains irrelevant. Truth is the amps he's put out have their place and are selling like crazy and do well. I'll likely trade mine out eventually, but for now I'll continue to run my shit amps I guess.