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They are 8s after all... going from 353 in^2 cone area to 200 in^2 with about half the stroke of the BTL -- yes, you will lose a good bit of output. It will be MUCH more compact, though.

Enclosure suggestion is in the first post -- they will work in your volume fine. Pre-sale is still on.

First burp... HU @ 0 position on sub control. Matched best score ever with the Monster at any time (155.3) -- best I ever did at my shop on my meter was 155.1 dB, though. Now... HU at +3 position ! MY BEST SCORE EVER -- one OR two subs Man I am excited... 155.9 was my best before with two Nightshade 15s and four 3000s on an 18v system. This time... ONE NS v.2 15" and two SAZ-4500Ds on 12 volts !

A long time ago we offered it on the SAZ-1500Ds -- before the 2000, 3000, 3500, 4500, etc were released. It's been years.

Linear Xmax by 70% BL method is 16.5mm -- usable throw is closer to 25mm or so before the frame runs out of room, and they can move that far.

I sent tracking numbers by FedEx automatic notification to everyone yesterday -- so if you didn't get one let me know.

This one is Nightshade v.1 built as 10" size. I will offer the Nightshade v.2 as a 10" by special order. To me it is too powerful to be practical as a 10" but some people may want it anyway.

Hopefully the Nightshade v.2 gives me a better number !

In the box it is 37 lbs. * 3500D * 4500D

Compared to SAZ-3500D:

Minimal break-in time... just a few minutes on the bench: RE (Series): 4.33 ohms Fs: 30.3 Hz Qes: 0.519 Qms: 7.250 Qts: 0.484 Le: 4.743 mH Vas: 29.077 L BL: 22.168 NA Cms: 89.22 uM/N Mms: 308 g Took a few minute break from shipping 4500s and measured these bad boys... I expect Fs to drop to 25 Hz or so with full break-in... which will take probably a week or so of play on these.

Will start shipping them ASAP. These things are HEAVY!

Called them and they are out for delivery to me... hopefully in time to start shipping them today.

Yes I still have some... e-mail me if interested.

That's lame ? Make a list of manufacturers that cover 1 ohm rated amps ran at 1/2 ohm under warranty... I am pretty sure you will find this in almost every manufacturers warranty text : "This warranty does not cover improper installation, accidental damage, misuse, abuse, improper wiring, operation of unit outside of listed specifications, or any product that has been modified or repaired by anyone other than Sundown Audio." A warranty exists to cover manufacturers defects... not abuse damage.

I am getting enough sent in by air to cover the pre-orders... that should be pretty quick. My shipping company tells me around a week to my door. I will be shipping ALL of those out for folks that pre-ordered... the rest will follow in early to mid January.

Once... gap is similar to an MT... IIRC.

Truck is, of course, late... but I have a tracking # of it being delivered to me. The "Overnight" service is going to get it to me Thursday... which is a little longer than overnight. Still going to try and stick to getting them all shipped by Friday! Will just have to work our butts off when they get here.

Make that 150.7 at Sean's House :

Z v.2 uses different coil, cone, and spiders... I'll have photos when they are ready.

Yes, cone and spider are equal to v.1 model -- these parts are very good so I'm not changing them. I will have double tinsel lead option for the v.2 Nightshade, though

I'm not done turning it up yet Best ever was 154.3 with the NS v.1

I've been looking for 30-45 minutes for my power clamp... no luck... so I cannot give power to SPL comparisons at this time. Simply comparing HU volume levels... with my HU sub control at -3 this is the results: MONSTER : 151.6 dB NS v.2 : 154.0 dB The NS may be seeing way more power due to reduced inductance... I have no way to know until I find my clamp. The Monster kept getting louder until the HU hit +6 as well where it did 155.1 dB. I will do more testing later... had an issue with the samples coil formers / coil leads being too short so I had to rig it up to work... one connection broke in my testing. I am ordering new coil samples with taller formers / taller coil leads for production and further testing. I will try to rig it up a better way to get more testing until then, though!

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