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http://www.caraudioc...-mid-level.html ** This thread tracks the development process ** As with any pre-order delivery times are an ETA (estimated time of arrival) and are not a guarantee of the delivery date. DO NOT ORDER if you are not okay with possible delays on the delivery. That being said the ETA is middle of November 2012 on these. ---------- Pre-Order Price : $155 Regular Price : $199 Pricing is shipped in continental 48 states. Contact us for a SH quote to AK or HI. !!! THIS IS FOR USA ONLY !!! To order get in touch with your favorite local or online dealer or send a Paypal in to us at [email protected] YOU MUST INCLUDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. If these are both not included your payment will be refunded. ---------- * Mids ready with frames and shims for assembly * Chromed back plate with logo etched in * Going down the line * Back of box has mid and tweeter measurements, response graphs, and midrange T/S specs * Front of box has feature highlights (yes I know I have an error on there -- too late to catch it!) * Tweeters ready to roll ---------- Dimensions : ---------- I will have some more pictures coming up soon as well as everything completely wraps up at the factory; currently just awaiting final packing and pick-up by my freight company. ---------- The 60-watts PER SIDE rating is designed around 8-hours continuous testing at 20-20,000 Hz with the entire set connected (mid, tweeter, and crossover) -- with any smart usage of an HPF filter the power handling goes up quite a bit. Keep in mind that a power rating is only as good as the conditions it was made under : It takes 4x the excursion for each octave DOWN in response to maintain the same output level -- so assuming a brick wall HPF at 40 hz that is 4x less excursion right there than our rated power level With a decent x-over anywhere from 50-80 Hz you are on track to run significantly more power. I run two channels of a 200.4 on my set crossed at 50 Hz @ 24 dB -- any sane level of listening is just fine. Most folks will likely be crossing over @ 80 Hz and 100+ watts per side is no issue at all for *almost* any user. Also note MOST ratings you see on components are BOTH sides combined. I don't feel like that is an honest way to rate a set at all so I've done it differently. I also do not want to confuse everyone with an "official" conditional rating of "100-watts... well if you use X crossover at X dB per octave" -- so an absolutely worst case rating has been applied.

The custom 18" basket hasn't been started tooling yet -- we have a 10" spider adapter and a large surround in tooling for the 6-spoke until then.

Got some photos of the 10" cone/surround -- the first one to be completed. Stay tuned as the other sizes are completed.

Great deal on this extremely popular line

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October sale on the E series is ON as of today! Pricing as below : E-10 : Regular = $105 // SALE = $85 E-12 : Regular = $110 // SALE = $90 E-15 : Regular = $130 // SALE = $105 This sale is available for all authorized local and online dealers for the month of October !!! Pick them up while you can for a great price !

Not sure yet -- depends on how caught up I can get from my trip.

The samples arrived while I was out of town -- back now and on to the photos ! Weights : 10" 12-spoke : 1.7 lbs 10" Sundown : 4 lbs 12" 12-spoke : 2.3 lbs 12" Sundown : 5 lbs 15" 12-spoke : 3.4 lbs 15" Sundown : 7.9 lbs Not a finely calibrated scale so within a few tenths. * THICK rim -- no more cracked rim with over-tightened screws or with a super heavy motor. * THICK base -- no worries about bolts pulling through even with motors 2-3x heavier than we use now. ----- Still awaiting our new cones and surrounds to arrive... then we can do some building and show off what these can do ! ----- Mocked up on a motor with our new spacer ring... very similar to the Z v.3 18" spacer but the ID matches our new frame base and this one is a bit thicker to allow a bit more air flow as the new frames have more displacement potential. The same spacer works on all sizes 10/12/15 as well. * Inner air passage on spacer * Outer air passage * This is a 12" frame and motor mock-up; proportionately looks alot like the SA-8 v.2

I'm back @ work this morning !

As the title states. I will be on an actual vacation for the first time in ~6 years or so. The rest of the crew will still be here at the shop holding down the fort. You can still reach Brandon and Debbie as you normally would. Some things may be delayed a bit that require my attention but most things will get done no problem.

We have a second set running power test cycles at the factory. They already passed 100-watts RMS per side for 8 hours -- yesterday we ran them up to 125-watts RMS for 8 hours as well. Will continue to run more cycles on them until failure and rate them around that level

Got the prototypes in -- I won't be able to test for a bit as I'm going on my first real vacation in about 6 years next week... but many they look and feel fantastic. Little bit of free air testing on the mid has us all smiling * It was hard to see in other photos but the "S" surround turned out great. * I am looking into closing off the edges of the x-over as well... still in the works.

Yes, these are XBL Cool beans I've always enjoyed the XBL gear I've played with. Be interested in seeing the specs on them. Did you go with XBL on the tweeter as well? Not many of those out there. Yes the tweeter is also XBL

They are made for lines ABOVE the SA series -- so big... likely NS v.3 will be first test motor.

I am incredibly excited... like a kid in a candy store. There are so many woofers I have wanted to build / prototype that I just haven't been able to do with existing frames -- now it's all wide open Can't wait to start pushing the limits of the new platforms !!!

They are being shipped to me soon -- I will take a TON of photos upon arrival.

The molds completed a few days ago and the first samples rolled out -- here are a few of the first look photos from our basket manufacturing company! I am super excited about the potential these will bring to out larger woofers. Once our new spiders, cones, surrounds, and spacers are all tooled we can really show off what these are capable of -- those parts should have completed samples as well soon too. These things carry some serious heft... the base plate that bolts to the motor is 9mm thick un-painted compared to 5mm on most 4 and 12-spokes and 8mm on the Ti-18 frames (add about 0.5mm for paint). They are the strongest frames that I am aware of ever to be produced. ----- 10" Model ----- 12" Model : ----- 15" Model :

Yes, these are XBL

We did have some unforeseen hold-ups on shipping the SAX-125.4 and SAZ-1500D v.3 pre-orders but they are rolling out again as of today -- we'll be working overtime to get them tested and shipped. Hope everyone really enjoys them upon arrival !!!

* Overall Set * Crossover Cover * Crossover Guts * Crossover Side -- Very thick / heavy duty housing plates * Midrange Front * Midrange Back -- Notice lead wires ran below spider. I will also likely make the finish chrome for more durability and weather resistance. * Overall side view * Tweeter * Rear Tweeter View * Tweeter Side View ---------- Final MAP price from authorized dealer is $799 for the entire set. I am looking into selling the parts separately as well -- but those details have not been worked out yet. I am planning on doing a good bit of testing and tweaking before starting production on these -- so consider this pretty early in the game. Will update once the prototype set arrives and we test it.

So is anyone ready to see some updates on these bad boys ?

They will be $199 from authorized dealers. Pre-Order price is TBA. As of now I have not considered selling the parts separately. If a demand for it shows itself I may consider doing so down the line.

I will once I get final confirmation of shipping from the factory

Production should wrap up soon -- typical transit time is ~30 days once they depart. * Mids ready with frames and shims for assembly * Chromed back plate with logo etched in * Going down the line * Back of box has mid and tweeter measurements, response graphs, and midrange T/S specs * Front of box has feature highlights (yes I know I have an error on there -- too late to catch it!) * Tweeters ready to roll