sundownz

Yes, he has two Prototype Monster 18s in the truck for testing. Eventually he will have three of them =) As for your earlier question -- four Nightshades on two 3500s on 18 volts should do well. I would suggest using 18s for maximum SPL.

I think the Monster may be what you want... Brandon (employee) has an SAZ-4500D protytpe on each of his prototype Monsters. This setup was built incorrectly for meter for SPL competition but is VERY loud to your ear.

We can ship you a big truck I'm sure, haha!

I wouldn't say excessive fragility as he was running around 5000 watts with the 3000Ds on 18v and 1/2 ohm Primarily it was the excessive pressure of the 4th order band-pass destroying the cones and glue joints of speakers -- it did the same thing to any speaker put in there. DD 9500s, RE MTs, and so on. I do not believe he had any voice coil problems with the Nightshades. In any event... for four SAZ-3500Ds I would suggest 16 batteries -- XS Power D3100s would be my choice on 12v. For 16v I would suggest XS Power D1000s and to use 24 of them. --- Some videos of the 4x 18s Truck :

We had 4x Nightshade 18s and 4x SAZ-3000Ds on 18v in a car here... it would do 159.9 bursts and 156-158 on music. Large 4th order band-pass. That much power on only four subs was not good for the subs and they needed replacing periodically. So I would suggest doing eight Nightshades with four 3500Ds for best reliability long term.

I would use the eight woofers for best reliability.

There is a good chance these will come in early August as production just finished and they will be on the way shortly... so get those pre-orders in ASAP!

I can stiffen up the spider by request - but you would probably be louder with the stock spider and 1500 watts. We try not to build subs that just handle power... we like them to USE it

I was told that I should expect them this week. So unless something unusual happens I expect that.

They are rated 1500 RMS - running a 1500D per sub is the extent of warranty covered power.

See if moving the amps farther apart solves it.

Chances are it'll get shipped separate - but you can go ahead and order one

Amp turn-on delay to prevent pops - normal.

A little bit of light dimming is not unusual when utilizing even just ~1000 watts of power -- any voltage drop from the alternator charging level will cause the brightness level of lights to decrease. It is only annoying unless the voltage is dipping substantially under 12 volts.

Easy - I start shipping them

We are closed Friday - July 3rd. I will most likely not check much if any e-mails over the weekend.

Base price for first of any item - then the discounted for any additional items. Example: Drink Cooler - $7.00 + Screw Driver Discounted $5.00 = $12.00 total It includes shipping in the continental 48 states.

The little screw driver tool is great for gain setting I keep one in my Jeep for that.

GIANT 8" Sundown Audio Pen - $5.00 each (Add $3.00 for additional after the first one) Sundown Screw Driver Tool - $7.50 each (Add $5.00 for additional after the first one) Sundown Drink Cooler - $7.00 each (Add $4.50 for additional after the first one) Paypal to [email protected] with a list of what you are ordering!

Please keep it on topic guys, thanks.

Talk to your favorite dealer or send me a Paypal to [email protected] along with a list of what you are ordering. Sale prices are SHIPPED in the continental 48 states - contact me or your dealer of choice for a shipping quote to AK or HI. SALE FOR USA ONLY - any pricing matters outside the USA handled by local distributors! We are celebrating the 4th of July AND our 3rd year in business (thanks to all of our customers) so we decided to have the biggest sale we have ever had ----- SAZ-2000D $490 SAZ-1500D $440 SAZ-1000D $280 SAX-125.2 $205 SAX-100.4 $315 SAX-50.4 $205 Nightshade 12" $410 Nightshade 15" $430 Nightshade 18" $450 Z Series 15" $300 SA Series 12" $175 --- Everything but the SAZ-2000D and SAZ-1000D will ship right away. Both of these items will be in stock next week (ETA) but you can order now and they will ship when in stock.

Latest word is next week or so due to the Holiday coming up.

If it is a very faint hiss it is noise floor in your system and not uncommon to hear with no music playing. If you hear something with music playing and it varies with volume that sounds unusual to me - is that what you are describing ?

Two SAZ-1500Ds on 12v

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-product-reviews/61735-sundown-sa-12-review.html "I have had this sub for a few days now and am finally getting a chance to really give it a good listening to, mainly on my commute to and from work and this evening i finally had some time to just sit in the car and play some random tracks. The car is a 2008 Scion xB, the sub is in the rear cargo area in a 2cu ft ported enclosure tuned to 29hz (I will be updating my build thread with that info as well) Sub is on the drivers side facing the hatch port is on the passenger side facing the wall which was recommended to me and works VERY well. Build quality is outstanding, great fit and finish on all parts. Nice thick paper cone, stiff high roll foam surround, woven and tied down leads the list goes on and on, Jacob really scored on this driver. Here is a shot of the driver in the car. (pardon my dust i was short on time) So on to listening impressions. The details : sub is wired to 2 ohms off of a Sundown SAZ-1000D which is rated for 600 @ 2. Perfect Match. Right now the sub is crossed over at 80 hz and sub sonic is set to 25. I don't really listen to a lot of rap or test tone music so the ssf is more or less a fail safe just in case. Quick impression: The SA-12 is a GREAT sub, even at 80hz it is very easy to blend with my front stage and does not get boomy or sloppy. The transient attack is very fast. The impact is awesome when you start to put the boots to it, it has been a very long time since i have seen movement from my winshield wipers with music playing BUT it is NOT an SPL sub only! The SQ of the driver has been stellar so far, extremely musical, very quick, and can easily go from a nice subtle sq sub to a cut right through you sub on demand. And it retains it's composure very well at high volumes, I honestly have NO issues with this driver so far. My musical tastes are far from average and span a wide spectrum so i will list the tracks i have really paid attention to so far and will add more over the next few days. Sublime: What I Got (reprise)- I have always loved the bass line in this version of the song, the high and low transitions are reproduced very well with the SA-12, very effortless, tight and with great tonality. Jonny Lang: Lie To Me- Absolutely outstanding impact on this song, the kick drum comes through with a hard hit and great sound, the paper cone really sounds awesome on drums, it is a sound I have missed and without doubt have regained Lee Rocker: I'll Cry Instead- The driver really reproduced a lot of details i have been missing with the stand up bass in this song. Nice attack on the slappy bass line and the notes are heard individually, not just mushing together staying clean and sharp along with the drums, never faltering a bit. Eagles: Hotel California (live)- Pretty much a must play with any sub test in my opinion, and i was able to take it from a nice tonal blended sub to an absolute beast hitting me in the chest with this track, while continuing to play both drums and bass individually at all volumes, neither one overpowering the other. Boxenkiller - My favorite drum and bass track to play around with. Another track that i was really able to bring the beast out with and still keep the bass guitar nice and defined tonally. Drum rolls, kicks and bass guitar were all reproduced to some very high levels while not ever approaching boomy or distorted sound. Bob Marley: Turn Your Lights Down Low (remix)- This is the version from the Chant Down Babylon album. Drum machine and synth bass that can get nice and low and fun to play with and also some fun little transitions here and there. Reproduced very well although in my opinion the recording could have been better, the sub showed that it really likes to dig deep and stay clean. Bela Fleck & The Flecktones: Flying Saucer Dudes- The sub fell in love with this track! The drums are sort of all over the place going deep and back to regular, bass line everywhere. Overall a fun track to listen to made even more fun with the driver that this is, Stevie Wonder: Superstition- A truly classic song with a fun and rhythmic bass line that the SA-12 is able to reproduce flawlessly. Each note discernable from the last and never stumbles. Stevie Wonder: Ribbon In The Sky- Had to play this one for my girl, her absolute favorite song in the world and the SA-12 plays the stand up bass line with the subtlety that was intended, very well defined and you can feel the notes as they are played without mushing up the mix. This is one where the sub really amazed me in its ability to play music. Tool: Sober - Outstanding attack! I could feel every rake of the bass strings throughout the song. The Outlaws: Green Grass & High Tides- Very typical southern rock bass line. Fast attack throughout the frequency range reproduced effortlessly staying clean high, low and everywhere in between and hearing each note clearly. A fun listen. Overall I am 100% satisfied with this sub (FINALLY found one i like) and i have yet to find anything negative to say. I do not hear any motor noise from it and it does what i want when i want it to. There will be more tracks listed and impressions given as the days pass, and if any of you have some favorites then throw them out and i will do what i can to give it a listen. I also hope to be able to gather a few members from here very soon so they can give it a test as well but this sub is definitely a winner in my book."