sundownz

Haha, so are they in ?

Yep - depends on what you want. With 1500-watts all you need are the stock 3 spiders. This sub in particular has a very long D2 coil - almost twice as long as the standard coil.

Just a couple pounds more than the 15s - its the same motor and the baskets aren't that heavy.

Epoxy can be strong enough for dust caps anyways. Indeed, the black glue is doing most of the holding anyway - and it holds the caps on the MT I re-coned in the truck The epoxy is really only there to fill in the gap around the disc / dust cap stacked together so it looks nicer. It does add a bit more strength too, though.

The triple joint glue isn't "smooth" like I would want... this glue is strange in that it doesn't budge from where it is applied for as much as a 3/8" gap. You can apply it and turn it upside down and it dries just like you left it. So there is no settling in and smoothing out with this stuff. BUT, if it is as strong in a speaker application as it is listed to be in the data sheets I may end up using it to build the "big subs" mentioned in the other thread. Another reason why I used regular clear epoxy around the cap, it settles and dries smooth and pretty looking.

And no... they aren't production yet. I have a few custom built that are doing to Team Sundown members and this one that is going to someone as well.

* Dust cap... applied with three types of glue. 1) Green "special" glue to hold down stiffening disc (can't see the disc) 2) Black flexible glue to hold the cap to the disc 3) Clear epoxy to cover the height of the disc / cap combined around the edges * Surround is applied with flexible black glue as well * Triple joint - the cone doesn't meet the spiders, so it's a "dual triple joint" setup. Used glue all the way across the gap. Spider also glued down with "special" glue (yes, it's green) - then the gap between the outside of the spider and basket filled in with green special glue. * 18" 6-spoke doesn't have windows so spacers used for venting. ---- The green glue is experimental... this is the first full driver I've built with it. On paper it's incredibly strong, resistant to solvents and chemicals, and high temperature. Before applying the dust cap I ran it full blast on a 1500D @ 1 ohm free air and it held. This sub has two hard and two soft spiders stacked in an alternating pattern, FYI.

They aren't specific Team shirts, just "Sundown Audio" shirts. I've been meaning to list them for sale... I have Small through XXXL in stock.

I don't have any 5x shirts... had two custom made but they went to a customer in Wilmington. Just be sure the back wall doesn't flex and vibrate so the amps don't get harmed. Looks loud!

Indeed... very minor defect.

Yep, still sitting on two more!

Great! I'm glad it worked out for you

I have used the Krystal RCAs before and they worked for me - I found them to be very tight, though. Hard to remove. I pretty much use something along these lines these days: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=185-232 Very standard ends without any extra gripping features or fancy plugs... always work for me. I have several sets of these red monster RCAs.

Cool Glad they are working out for you so far!

If you have a caliper and can measure the gap I can tell you for sure. If it's a thick round wire 4-layer the 8-layer flat *may* go in. I wouldn't hold your breath... but my 8-layer will fit in a TC-9 motor.

Pretty sure the icon is a 4-layer - the NS has an 8-layer coil, it probably won't go in with sufficient clearance.

I doubt it.

I spoke with Sou on the phone and we are going to get him taken care of

cool did they make it to you OK? Yep! They seem to be just fine. Go figure they didn't break the baskets when it doesn't really matter.

I still have the current SAE-1000D model It's going to be handing around for a bit longer since it is so popular with the small size.

*laughs* I have your parts on the way, loudcav It's being build the same as the other size drivers. The experimental one is going elsewhere if it works out right... sure hope it does as it has 35 dollars worth of experimental glue on it.

Experimenting with some assembly stuff today Testing the glue that I may be using and a few techniques for assembly. Trying it out on assembling an 18" Nightshade. Will post pics if it turns out alright!

Those two still here.

Not the motors, don't have a magnetizer yet

They will be built to order in 12s, 15s, and 18s when available. Sounds interesting, but the shipping weight of this beast is definately something that won't work for me Only if you would ship straight from the buildhouse Indeed, I'm going to be building them.