sundownz

More than 100 watts =) About 110 - 120 watts per channel.

The new proto is being built... I'm ready to roll w/ it as soon as I can approve the design

The old thread got cluttered and I think people thought I was out and forgot and left the thread pinned So, I started a brand new fresh thread... the blowout sale is still going on. ----- The SD-1 model is being closed out and discontinued due to sluggish sales. They will still carry full warranty as I will hold onto some of them for warranty replacements: http://www.sundownaudio.com/ppsd10.html -- 10" Model Information http://www.sundownaudio.com/ppsd12.html -- 12" Model Information These subs perform very well... see some first hand reviews here: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...?showtopic=9883 http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...?showtopic=9264 ---------- Pricing is as follows: Shipped Prices are to Continental 48 states 1x 10" SD-1 will be $65.00 shipped 2x 10" SD-1s will be $120.00 shipped ($60 each) 4x 10" SD-1s will be $225.00 shipped ($56.25 each) 1x 12" SD-1 will be $75.00 shipped 2x 12" SD-1 will be $137.50 shipped ($68.75 each) 4x 12" SD-1 will be $250.00 shipped ($62.50 each) Ask about higher quantities... also ask about shipping rates outside of the continental 48 states. GO HERE TO PAY WITH PAYPAL: http://www.sundownaudio.com/SD-1_blowout.html ---------- Want a cheap and easy solution for sealed enclosures for the SD-1 subs? http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=260-646 * Dual 10" box with near perfect volume for $35.20 + shipping http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=260-648 * Dual 12" box with near perfect volume (just add 2-3 pounds poly per side) for $49.40 + shipping

Price drops across the board Need to move this stuff out.

Indeed... maybe an intro sale would be better once they actually come in as I can't stand telling people that stuff is late.

I am seriously considering a pre-sale on these... what does everyone think? Keeping in mind the delivery date will *NOT* be guaranteed, it could always take a few more weeks!

Yessir... it's a regular phone cord, just use phone cord y-splitters

It could do 149.9 bassrace for sure I can maintain 150 - 152 or so on music no problem.

320 watts for the win!

Up to 158.7 as of yesterday by adding MaxxSonics MaxxLink to match the amps and provide a better signal. Gained another 0.1 dB today thanks to a ~ 6" long piece of aluminum tape 158.8 dB consistently.

Awesome

In order to get to where I REALLY wanted to be with this sub thats the way it went. I wanted to make it pretty much bulletproof when a pair is attached to an SAZ-1500D *laughs* Make no mistake... they will handle more power but the rating will be 1000 watts RMS. I won't cover burnt coils due to abuse since someone would literally have to TRY to tear one up with under 1500 watts on it.

In order to get to where I REALLY wanted to be with this sub thats the way it went. I wanted to make it pretty much bulletproof when a pair is attached to an SAZ-1500D

Little teaser... simulated BL curve for the v.3 prototype. 23.84 mm Linear x-max by 70% BL method.

It is on the way

I run two SD-1 10s in my daily car on an SAX-100.2 with no subsonic filter, and I have been for quite some time. So yes, I would suggest that you don't really need one. Just use common sense and don't play 20 Hz sine waves at full volume and you won't have any issues --- I still have SD-1s in stock, in case anyone was wondering!

First inspection showed that one of the legs on one of the filter inductors was broken. My bet is that this happened after installation due to some kind of bump or jarring since both of them were charred, so something had to be running through that one for at least a while to char it as well as the other -- which makes me think it wasn't shipping. Likely scenario... it got jarred and broke the leg after the part was already hot, increasing the load on the other part thus finishing it off. Just a guess at this point. Now I need to know why the inductors were too hot to begin with. My first assumption would be that somewhere in the amp there was a weak solder joint, other than the inductor, which broke loose and caused the whole scenario. Could be a fluke, could be something I need to address for QC inspection in production. I'll be looking into it further, this is why I do so many prototypes Anyhow... I'll make sure that those filter inductors receive plenty of silicone for production much like the SAZ amps. I would bet it's just a case of the part being jarred around without adequate physical support, which would not be his fault at all.

Actually what size are the power/neg terminals? 4awg? I am not going to put it in probably until I get my new CDT ES Comps from James as he is building a set of kicks for my Titan. Will also have to get the 100.2 soon and make an amp rack on the back wall. This is going in an 04 Titan King Cab, had a mostly eD setup in previously but once I got the kicks on order everything took an upgrade. They are 4 awg terminals, yes.

Yah, thats about right

Yessir, you are correct.

There is no reason to compare the two, they are totally different. The new BM is an excellent SQ driver by design. It isn't made to be hit with tremendous power as the suspension will reach the full 16mm of linear travel with very little power. It *needs* far less power than the old BM, although it can handle just as much thermally it will reach full x-max long before the old design would. When I listened to the new BM it was one of the best sounding subs I have listened to other than the Mag. The old BM is a nice sub too... but the X series has a larger coil, more x-max, and thus costs more. It will be ahead of the old BM in most any category and should sound just about as good. In case you missed the part about this woofer being upgraded tremendously due to the length of this thread -- compared to the initial prototypes, it is being completely changed and MSRP is going up a good bit from the original projection as my build cost has went up a great deal. The new design will handle 1000 watts RMS without issue... and that will likely be the rating, although, with the size of the coil and surrounding steel parts it will have the ability to handle much more than that.

Are you going to tell them what it is?

Absolutely The Mag is pretty much #1 in my book for the SQ, and the new BM in the works is right up there with the Mag. Most of the subs I'm working on will sound good, but SI subs tend to be more pure SQ with output as a secondary goal. This woofer in particular is designed for great output first with SQ second... it'll sound good but it's not made to be a Mag

I am a huge fan of bi-amping, and I feel that you would love the results This will give you much more flexibility to fine tune the crossover point and the tweeter level. I would say go for it 100% if it's in your budget.

* NINE.2 Internal Photo * SAX-100.2 Internal Photo Use your judgment You don't have to be an expert to see the difference here. --- As for the SAE-1000D to the NINE.1 -- the NINE.1 is actually a more powerful amplifier, so swapping here doesn't make as much sense.