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Hmmm... not really normal, no.

Awesome score! Usually deadening doesn't work well for SPL... the few success stories I have seen have been with Second Skin Damplifier. Probably because it has one of the most rigid backings of any of the products out there.

The multi-channels will almost always run hotter due to their Class A/B construction. The thing with a Class A/B design is that it is always extremely inefficient at low power levels. Generally as low as 20-40% at lower to mid output levels up to a theoretical maximum of 75% (which is almost never achieved). I can get an SAX pretty hot on my test bench in a hurry if I want to, the SAZ-1500D, SAE-1000D, and SAZ-3000D take some work to get warm

No problem! Hoss' has been making his 1500Ds and 100.2s hot enough to cook eggs on since he first got them in August of 2006... and they are still going strong If you are running at a regular impedance and they aren't hot enough to go into protection, you are good to go. He is the guy with 8x 12" BMs in a truck if that rings a bell.

Roughly 2200 watts total or 1100 watts each at 12.8 volts.

The heatsink being warm is normal, it's purpose is to dissipate heat into the air and it is doing that Only be concerned if it is extremely hot and you can barely touch it.

Looks like he wants to run 12x low powered woofers... should actually work quite well for him I would think I've heard a wall of those RE 8s before with around 1500 watts and it slammed.

http://www.sundownaudio.com/ Site is up and running with it's new look! Big thanks to Brad Blankenagel for making it happen.

I believe that Steve still has some of these, un-pinned but one last bump to the top!

10" BM is 5 3/8" deep 12" BM is 6" deep

Excellent score!

Most any dealer will quote you under $599 but all dealers must list that price.

It's fine, I mainly use it to haul amps around I got the SE model with the 2.0 and CVT transmission, very few other options. I've put 10k miles on it since December 30th and don't have any real complaints other than the noisy factory tires.

Ah, I see. For some reason I thought you had dual 0.75 ohm coils. In that case... what I said about strapping at 3 ohms is the information that you need.

Expect about 1300 watts each at 1.5 ohm... so you would be getting about 2600 watts to the sub strapped @ 3 ohms. Right now you are getting about 1750 watts at 0.75 ohms, so it is a substantial increase. I am a bit confused on how you are getting 3 ohms... since you only have one sub, correct? That would not be possible. If you wired the coils in series and strapped the amps you would be running 1.5 strapped, or 0.75 per amp. In which case you should expect to get around 1750 each again, for around 3500 watts total. One question... is the 0.75 the DCR or the rated nominal?

Woops... I guess it got lost in my to-do pile. The cut-out on the 12" model is the same as the Mag 12" at 11.125 inches and the 10" BM has the same cut-out as any other 10" 12-spoke driver out there at 9.25 inches. As for depth... haven't measured that, let me see if I can get that.

http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthre...4123#post334123 Full Text: Well I just got done testing the 100x4 rms amplifier from Sundown, and I have to say that I am very pleased with the results. This amp showed up in a great looking box, so I opened it up and found all manuals and spec sheets intact. Everything looked just great, so I opened her up to take a look at the guts and take a couple of pics for you guys. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas073.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas079.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas082.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas072.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas087.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/din.../bananas085.jpg So for it's first test, This amp would go up against a/b with a Audison LRX4.5 Which is 75rms @4ohm, driving a set of Hertz Mille 6.5 comp set, and 2 12" hertz subwoofers. After setting gains and level matching both amps, I started out with some fav's... Eagles hotel california live on dvd audio, My first impressions were that I was not listening to an amp that retail for less than 500.00. All of the crossovers were doing their job superbly, all cut points were fairly accurate, all power and input sections were noise free. Music reproduction was clean and warm, but not quite as rich as I am used to with my audison's and tubes. All in all it is a great piece of equipment if you are looking to buy a 4-ch amp in the 500.00 price range. Thanks for reading ------ Well I own a retail shop that sells other high-end equipment, and thought I'd give sundown an honest heads up test against some Audison amps. I did it because I was interested in what his amps were all about, and he did it because he wanted the evaluation. I think the tests went great and another thing, the amps pricing is spot on with its performance. Hell I was on another site and heard people talking about how "pricey" sundown is.. and I just had to jump in there and say I think they are right were they need to be with their retail prices. I will say that I have yet to test any other amplifier that is of the china/usa builds that sounds as good as this little sundown. Sorry for the long read, see ya.

Yep I've got two in my Civic behind the front seats.

Still fine for daily with that setup. For competition purposes with your proposed larger setup... just as above, add a few Kinetik 2400s.

The multi-channels won't be drawing a whole lot of current on a daily basis. Don't really be concerned about their current draw, the sub system draws the most current out of everything by far. Am I right that you have three batteries? The wording is a bit confusing. It sounds like you will be fine with the electrical setup that you have running daily. In the future... simply keep the under-hood setup and add 2 - 4 Kinetik 2400s =) PS: Took care of the double post. PS II: The small SAE amps are still a bit in the future. I will have the SAE subs first... then the 75.2 after that. The SAE-50.4 will probably come after the Nightshades which are due next year... but you never know, it could come sooner.

I had a D7 and it didn't sound quite right for some reason... killer crossovers though! I had the 6-channel model with HP/LP/BP from 50 - 5000 hz on all sets of channels. Just might not have been enough power for me.

That will be sufficient. I've used one in a personal car on stock electrical with 1/0 and it was no problem.

Glad to hear that you like your amp

Almost exactly double the current draw of a 1500D at 1 ohm. You need to have an electrical system capable of supporting 300 amps of current draw at maximum output levels at 1 ohm. When we tested in Sean's truck at lower loads we were drawing over 400 amps, but that is under 1 ohm I would highly suggest a 200 amp alternator, a large primary battery, and a large Group 31 or bigger secondary battery. Just being honest... anyone running over 2000 watts with less is fooling themselves about the power they are getting.

To the rest of the Team: Sorry guys! I've been pretty slammed this week so haven't gotten them out to everyone. I'll work on it over the weekend