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So an interesting project came my way... a client asked me to try out some of the NeoPro speakers for Guitar purposes... which I have had a few folks try them for bass guitar and like them but not regular electric guitar. Client comes back to me stating the NeoPro drivers are entirely too clean and then lends me an old vintage speaker that he considers the "driver to have" for this application -- which is tube amplifier electric guitar. So I analyzed it a bit... and came up with this : * Ribbed, thin paper cone with very small dust cap * Actual paper surround - one piece with the cone * Low excursion spider with completely un-vented frame * Un-vented motor Many of the design elements are to purposely introduce distortion -- as this is what Guitar guys seem to like. In any event... I am not a guitar player so I won't have more thoughts until the client tries it out and lets me know. You never know... we may be doing Guitar speakers if all goes well

Some more actual pics now that I have them... I may go to the old style spade connectors for the 6.5" as the sprint terminals don't work as well on this frame as the other sizes... but otherwise pretty happy with them so far :

Indeed -- no testing yet... only six prototypes right now.

REMAINING ITEMS (still available) : TRF MOTOR / BASKET - $350 shipped 4x Ferrite 3" Coil Motors - $125 shipped each RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH SMD 15-D1 - $600 + SH 2x Z v.1 With 15" Frames - $125 + SH each 2x "X-12" Motor and baskets - $100 + SH each

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Stripping the Explorer down... Alts and voltage regulator are pending... if they don't sell will list them later. In any event... batteries and wire : 7x D1000s -- 200 shipped each 1x D1000 -- 160 shipped (needs re-threaded) 4x D1600s (the other six are mine) -- 225 shipped each All rest at 16.7v or higher * Standard red stinger expert wire * 2.50 per foot + SH * Standard black stinger expert wire * 2.50 per foot + SH * Mixed Knu and Stinger Flex Wire * 2.75 per foot + SH FOR ALL WIRE $1200 + SH Approx 564.5 feet total (550-575 actual due to rounding each piece off to the nearest 0.5) with TONS of ring terminals on it. I will prefer to sell it all at once... but if nobody takes it will start splitting up as listed above.

REMAINING ITEMS : TRF MOTOR / BASKET - $350 shipped 4x Mini-Neo Motors - $250 shipped each 4x Ferrite 3" Coil Motors - $125 shipped each RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH SMD 15-D1 - $600 + SH 2x Z v.1 With 15" Frames - $125 + SH each 2x "X-12" Motor and baskets - $100 + SH each Oddball Neo-12 - $200 + SH

All NS v.1 Motors are gone now. REMAINING ITEMS : TRF MOTOR / BASKET - $350 shipped 4x Mini-Neo Motors - $250 shipped each 4x Ferrite 3" Coil Motors - $125 shipped each RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH SMD 15-D1 - $600 + SH 5x Z v.1 With 15" Frames - $125 + SH each 2x "X-12" Motor and baskets - $100 + SH each Oddball Neo-12 - $200 + SH

REMAINING ITEMS : TRF MOTOR / BASKET - $350 shipped 4x Mini-Neo Motors - $250 shipped each 4x Ferrite 3" Coil Motors - $125 shipped each RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH SMD 15-D1 - $600 + SH 5x Z v.1 With 15" Frames - $125 + SH each 1x NS v.1 Mtr with 18" Frame - $150 + SH 1x NS v.1 Mtr with 12" Frame - $150 + SH 2x "X-12" Motor and baskets - $100 + SH each Oddball Neo-12 - $200 + SH

15" NS v.1 motor / frame sold.

DD 3518 sold.

I decided to go through our fabled "sea of woofers" and try to get some of this stuff sold... we hired a new guy, Pedro (my cousin), and he organized it a bit to make even thinking about selling it manageable. First... the fabled sea in a somewhat organized form... I cannot get it all in one photo but you get the idea : It goes farther left and right. On the the yard sale! I am not interested in re-building ANY of these items before shipping them out due to time contstraints -- refer to a service like FixMySpeakeror your favorite custom builder for that -- I can ship directly to either if you like. * TRF Motor and Basket - $350 shipped in continental 48 states * MINI NEO MOTORS - $250 each shipped in continental 48 states * One is built as a sort of rigged up 8" for some testing we did * These are XBL^2 enabled motors made for 12-layer flat coils... which I do have a few of in stock for $20 each on coils * These do come with the baskets as pictured * 3" Coil Ferrite Motors with 3" coil opening - $125 each shipped in continental 48 states * These do come with the baskets as pictured * RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH * SMD 15" Dual-1 - $600 + SH * 5x Z v.1 15" w/ baskets - $125 + SH * Some may work, I don't know, sold as-is * DD 3518 Working but looks like crap - $100 + SH * Works but dust cap is smashed badly * 5x NS v.1 Motors with baskets and soft parts - $150 + SH each * Complete subs May or may not work - sold as-is * "X-12" Motors and baskets -- like 3" coil SA -- $100 + SH each * Oddball Neo prototype with 8-layer 2.5" coil - $200 + SH * Motor strength turned out low... has high Qts * Good for sealed box or display purposes; has huge internal shorting ring as well ---- THERE IS MORE... but I don't have time to list it all right now. I'll update this as items are sold.

Measured the specs. Modeled sealed box response is super deep; this coil would do some work in IB in 10s and 12s and also great for moderate sized sealed. Re : 7.25 ohms Le : 1.08 mH (super low for an 8 ohm nominal on a 3" coil) ** Fs : 34.1 Hz Qts : 0.75 Qms : 4.23 Qes : 0.91 Vas : 31 L BL : 19.75 Cms : 95.18 uM/N Sens : 83.1 dB 1w/1m Mms : 228 grams Linear x-max 70% BL : 22mm one-way ** Morel Ultimate with 2-layer coil is 1.33 mH with only 12.5mm x-max So this coil worked out great for moderate to large sealed or IB -- I am putting it in small sealed to see how I like it. More linear drivers such as this tend to sound great even with a high Qtc sealed (see SI BM MKIII). The other coil will have more wire in the gap so should drop Qts and Fs too (as it's heavier). These speakers are with MINIMAL break-in as well.

I played it a bit free-air this morning and it works; I was pleased with that as the gap to the pole is less than an RE MT *laughs* I do need to take note next time when assembling it that the surround pulled the coil forward a bit when I glued it together... need to start a few mm back when assembling it. Looks like 3-4mm or so off forward. Light little coil (80 grams) and soft spider cannot overcome the surrounds desire to pull forward a bit Should still get a good idea of performance and specs, though -- I need to re-build it with the other coil type anyway after a bit of testing

Should be ready to test tomorrow... I have the SAX-200.4 in my car to run this @ 2 ohms bridged on

First iteration sample coils are in -- I am going to try two versions of the coil to see which I like the best / works the best. Very light... very low inductance... so likely spider will be very soft as well to get the FS where I want it. Holding the coil in my hand I think I should use one NS style spider to get where I want to be with it.

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Not until our next shipment; Taco & Paco tested every subwoofer in our warehouse and found all the b-stocks.

Get Loud / Sound Good just like the whole NeoPro line. For SQ I'd look into a more traditional 6.5" with higher linear x-max and a bit more mid-bass output.

I got some photos of the prototypes in from my factory -- they are looking good. Of course the terminals will be bent down and whatnot in production. The motor is equal to the NeoPro-8 model. The only negative is that I am not sure how pricing will go on these Neo drivers -- Neo prices are going crazy and it may result in the NeoPro drivers rising in price. For reference... I got Neo quotes for my big Neo SPL motor and it was 300% higher than in 2009 -- no joke! BUT I will try to keep making them if possible as people really do enjoy them :thumbsup: We'll probably do some testing in Derrick's ride to see how they do.

Updated list. Getting low on the subs.

One sure way to take out the amp is for a speaker wire to come loose and touch ground -- if that happens the amp will be damaged and if you replace the fuses they will blow.

I will be testing several other E series models before it goes forward as I'd like to launch a few at once. Stay tuned.

I have a TON of things always in the works... you may see that one day; but not immediately. Figured I'd bring this back from the dead to show people we are moving along with plans

A few updates... When I made this thread what I was talking about for the "E Series" turned into the SD-2 series. I then started on a more "true" E series driver with stamped frame and 2" coil -- which I am still working on. --- SA-8 development moved even farther into what is going to start shipping first of August : A full v.2 model is still in the works. All of the SA revisions I spoke about were finished -- pole cap change and venting ring. We then took it another step farther and added a magnet ID shorting ring. --- What I was calling the "X" line will have a different name but is still in the works -- I am still pushing the SA series envelope for the v.2 model and all the changes I am making for the SA will go into this line right off the bad. Some different names entertained : "SAX" Series, "SD-3" Series --- The Monster v.2 concept DID get made : About to test that soon! --- I all but stopped development on Neo based subwoofers for a while to concentrate on our "bread and butter" lines -- eventually I'll revisit this area.