I am closing pre-ordering. The amps are due Tuesday to Wednesday.

They may not have them because they are built in china.

 

We stock all parts for our woofers -- almost every model.

Just got done unloading the trucks... the 15s and 18s are here in stock for the first time. We have additional 12D2 models for any over-flow overs as well. Any 10s either coil or 12D1 we'll still have to build until the next shipment.

Also some X-18 in D2 and D4 were on the truck as well as re-stocking quantities of SA-10/12/15 and SD-2 10/12 woofers.

It is not yet available.

Also some *peak* SPL drop is to be expected due to the above reasons compared to something like the SA series.

It really boils down to a few things :

1) The X has a dramatically louder bottom-end than the SA series or any other speaker we made before.

2) The X has WAY less suspension induced distortion than our SA series or any other speaker we made before.

If either one of those things is something you don't like -- you may not like the X.

The closest thing to a complaint I've had is some folks interpret 1 and 2 together as the driver lacking top-end -- but it's actually a lack of parameter shift over stroke; the driver stays FLAT rather than increasing the top-end over stroke.

Here is a post I made on CACO about it :

"The new platform drivers are a totally different animal than anything we've made before; and anything most anyone has made before.

Not only are we starting with a lower FS but our FS changes VERY little over stroke. It's a much lower distortion sound but the distortion of shifting Fs (and Qts) has a sound best described as "punchy" to the ear.

See the following (don't mind the objective # in the FS column -- just look at how it changes) :

* At 2" p-p the SA-12 FS is over 50% higher than at-rest

* At 2" p-p the SA-12 Qts has risen to triple it's rest value

* At 2" p-p the Z v.4 Fs has changed essentially none

* At 2" p-p the Z v.4 Qts has changed VERY little; with a max deviation of ~25% or so on the forward stroke

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Now... take a woofer and model it up with those changes to the parameters found on the SA-12 (which is a good representation of how many standard drivers act). You will see a massive increase in output toward the top-end and a massive decrease at the bottom-end over stroke.

On the Z v.4 you will not see this -- the response remains relatively unchanged over stroke. So compared to a less linear driver the increase in bottom-end over stroke can be MASSIVE as it simply does not drop off over stroke... but you won't hear the "punch" at the top-end generated by the distortion modes of shifting parameters.

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In many conversations with Dan Wiggins this theme came up... with XBL^2 you greatly reduce the QTS rise from a BL perspective (we are reducing it from a suspension perspective which also greatly reduces FS shift). Even then people complained that the Brahma drivers were not "punchy" -- what they actually were complaining about was a lack of distortion.

Down the line I plan to combine our suspension platform with a linear BL topology as well. That definitely won't be for everyone as the shifts of every parameter will decrease even further.

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In any event -- I expected to hear these type of reviews based on what people said about XBL^2 drivers 10+ years ago. Bottom line, to me, is that the design is objectively superior and fits what customers told me they wanted from their subs -- the most bottom end possible. Our SPL suspension system that is in the works for the new platform will offer a more "traditional" sound and also work better for higher frequency SPL for the same reason."

Cool comparison pictures AND introducing the TEAM Sundown motor that is in development. It will be our first 4" coil motor. Before you ask... ETA and price not yet available. As usual both will be announced when they ARE available.

* From Left to Right : TEAM Sundown, NS v.3, NS v.2, Z v.4, NS v.1, Z v.3, Z v.2, and finally the X Motor

2500 RMS with the "stock" coil; which will be a very long flat wire coil (longest coil we've ever had) -- eventually we'll be able to use most any 3" coil we've ever offered to tailor to different applications; the thermal handling will vary at that point.

As far as spiders... as of when they first go on sale you could use X, Z v.4, or NS v.3 level stiffness pressed packs -- at 4, 5, or 6 layers respectively... black, yellow, and light red in color respectively as well.

Then the SPL spiders are a different story all together -- we can do anywhere from 1 to 6 of those -- 6 of them will be a good bit stiffer than the hardest pressed pack setup.

Thats one tall pole

Sure is -- all the new motors for the new frames have very tall poles.

Here are the photos from Facebook -- I suppose not everyone gets on our FB page so posting them on the forums too :

* SPL Spiders shown with the Carbon Fiber Dust cap prototype

We've gone up to 3 cubes -- but you do sacrifice some mechanical handling.

Suggested boxes are something like this based on testing and data thusfar :

X-10 :

Sealed – 0.75 to 1.0

Ported – 1.25 to 1.75

X-12 :

Sealed – 1.0 to 1.5

Ported – 2.25 to 2.75

X-15 :

Sealed – 2.0 to 3.0

Ported – 3.5 to 4.5

X-18 :

Sealed – 4.0 to 6.0

Ported – 5.0 to 7.0

These amps are due mid to late September. This is our ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) -- as in it's our best estimate based on the information we have right now. It is subject to customers and transit delays -- so please, DO NOT pre-order if you cannot accept possible delays.

To pre-order visit your favorite authorized dealer locally or online OR for the purpose of the pre-order send us payment via Paypal to [email protected] -- include a FULL description of what you are ordering and be sure you have a CONFIRMED shipping address. You can also call in and pre-order with a credit card with Debbie at 704-528-9700 Ext : 5

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PRICING :

MODEL // Regular Price // Pre-Order Price

NS-1 v.2 : $1900 -- $1500

SAZ-5000D : $1520 -- $1200

SAX-150.2 : $400 -- $350

SAX-100.4 v.2 : $400 -- $350

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SPECIFICATIONS :

Full manual here for all but NS-1 v.2 :

http://www.sundownaudio.com/misc/Manuals/SundownManualRev3.pdf

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PHOTOS :

* NS-1 v.2 and the 5000D side to side

* Opposite end SAZ-5000D and NS-1 v.2

* NS-1 v.2 on top and 5000D on bottom

* Top side of both amps

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* SAZ-12000D compared to new SAX-150.2

* SAX-150.2 Crossover Side

* 150.2 Internals; it is full-range Class-D

* New SAX-100.4 v.2 below the SAZ-1200D for comparison

* SAX-100.4 v.2 Crossover Panel

* SAX-100.4 v.2 Internals

Forgot to post up the T/S specs :

E-10 D2:

E-10 D4:

E-12 D2:

E-12 D4:

Just came in about an hour ago ! So they are now in full stock in 6.5 , 8 , and 10" models in 8 ohm and 4 ohm.

* Included Speaker Caulk

We unloaded these last week -- they are fully in stock in D2 and D4 coils at the same price as always.

Rating is now 500-watts RMS due to the longer coil and modifications to the soft parts. They feature a longer coil, bigger surround, deeper motor structure, and a few other minor modifications.

The E-15 v.2 will be coming at some point in October to November.

Our friend Nick Lemons (of Obsidian Audio and Stereo Integrity) was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis about six years ago and a good friend of ours, Terri, will be riding her bike in a huge event held every year to help raise awareness and funds to find a cure for MS.

Terri will be riding in the Bike MS Atlanta Ride this September 14'th. From now until September 14'th for every $10 you donate you will get one entry towards the raffle to win a pair of Obsidian Audio 12" v2 subwoofers and a Prototype Obsidian Audio OA-1 1200 watt amplifier PLUS a pair of Obsidian Audio ST-1 tweeters! For instance, if you donate $50 you will be entered five times. If you donate $100 you will be entered ten times. If you donate $10 you will be entered once. Be SURE to put "Obsidian Audio" or "OA" either in the "Recognition Name" field or the second "Street 2" field. Simply find a place to put our company name in with your donation so we know to enter you in the raffle. If you do not do this you will not be entered for a chance to win.

Click the link below to visit the site for donations!

Bike MS Cox Atlanta Ride 2013: Ms. Terri Louise Latimer - National MS Society

There are no major re-vamps of the SD-2 line planned -- it's simply an indicator of stock as we were sold out.

 

We did recently add a magnet boot to them.

Call forwarding on the old number now works. So back to business as usual as far as that goes.

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/58648-sundown-x-series-10121518-pre-order-eta-june-2013/

DO not used a sealed box for the SA-8 v.2 -- if you want to go sealed you need the SD-2 8

New number to use for now until call forwarding is enabled : 828-459-1980 -- our old 704-528-9700 number will still work after today (assuming AT&T gets it done) as a forwarder to the new lines. We'll be re-working the system a bit to have 3 lines that roll over when one is busy once it's all complete!

AT&T has the new lines setup here (3 lines) -- once our Talkswitch box is transferred should be good to go. Hopefully that is hooked up this evening or tomorrow at latest.

ETA not set for those yet.

Our phone system is DOWN today completely while AT&T moves our number to the new facility. We've been forwarding it via the internet back to our Talkswitch box in Troutman up until now; but we are getting the whole deal officially moved today.

If you must contact us please e-mail [email protected] and he can ask anyone else any questions you may have as well. I will post ASAP once the phone system move is completed. Our old number will STILL work via forwarding @ the phone company and we will also have a new "official" phone number.