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Haha thanks for the info burko and im sure your lovin the btl at 15 years old haha thats amazing. And lows are my business....I will work for lows!! Yes id like to heard from someone who has heard both which will make my dicision that much easier for me, i know 2 12 bls will be louder then a 15" btl but it would take much more work to accomplish and if i knew id be satisfied with i 15 btl then thas the route id go, but until i can hear one in person its all up to you guys, i know whichever dicision i make ill be happy

yea and those new sd shallow mounts are lookin mighty sexy, looks like they can take some power too damn!!

Haha its all good my guy i know if youve got an 18" btl you gotta know your wiring , so how do you like the sound of the btl? have you ever heard a bl and if so what do you think the differences are if any in sound and just how it plays...low....high and peaky... real nasty and thunderous....haha so much to find out

I like this idea, love a pair of 10's sealed in a truck

hahaha yes deffinetly or even a 3508

Which is why i got d1 with the aq2200 , so any vets out there with some btl experience wanna share how you like it so far and if you have heard any bls what the differences are in the two besides output

Wouldnt this be better off in the "For Sale" section? Nice sub tho

Just wish it was were it was before bush got in that seat of $1.89 is what i remember......Hahahaha that will never happen again

wow its father and son haha gooo sundown!! Just wish i had the money to try out some of these amazing subs some day

yes my sub is a dual 1 ohm, and iv looked it up if i have 2 dual 1 ohm subs then i could either wire it to 1 ohm or 4 ohms, and yes i do have a pretty big trunk in my civic its actually bigger then the trunk of my old maxima haha yea it surprised me too, but its its like i either wanna get louder or i wanna get louder with trying out a btl haha, i just dont know the differences in sound of the two. If only i could hear a 15" btl that would give me all the answers i need but not very many people around here know of anything good except for the kickers and alpines sold at the stereo shop lol.

i have thought about it but i would still need a new box and if i were to get a new box might as well put in a btl but yea i think imma just try out a btl iv heard nothing but great stuff about it, only thing im worried about is the difference in sound, if anyone has heard both the bl and btl could you give me your input as to what i should expect different as far as sound, how it switched from beat to beat and the tone of it id really appreciate any input from the experts

yea that also makes sense, im just trying to plan ahead so i dont have to keep switching out stuff and redoing, like they say if your gonna do it might as well do it right the first time and be done with it, just wish i could hear a btl 15" first so i could see if it would be enough for my likings. damn subwoofers get your brain cells thinkin haha so many options!

haha yes that makes perfect sense, i guess what i was trying to say is is the btl a pretty big leap from the bl, i know its more cone area with 2 12" compared to 1 15, but those btls iv heard are pretty damn beastly haha, im just hoping if i do get the btl it wont be enough still but then again everyone says they get sh*t loud and what im mostly shooting for is gettin decently loud or louder then what i am right now and i dont wanna go through all the trouble of selling my bl and box and buying another box and btl and it being barely any louder lol.

ok so right now iv got a 12" fi bl in a 2.5 cuft box tuned to 33hz. so my next move is to either get one more bl and wire my aq2200 to 1ohm or sell me bl and get a 15" btl. My question is would the btl be a significantly amount louder? is it a huge step up from the 12" bl or would i just be better off getting another bl. im going to be getting a 180a hp dc alt with big 3 done and a kinetik hc1400 under the hood. i will have the electrical for 2200 watts but what would be the smarter option mostly going for a lil louder, i love 1 sub setups and it would be easier to get 1 btl and a single box then another bl and buy a dual 12" box. Thanks in advance Bassheads

I would have to say the new VW GTI is looking damn sexy and has a pretty big cargo area for a couple 10's or more, and i think it would sound so amazing in that little hatchback! oh jay you gotta swap me cars cuz i know youve got one of thems hahaha....so jealous!!

would be a very big step up. what are you planning on doin the hairtrick with OP?

haha guy asks whats the best hz to do a hair trick with 2 12" kenwoods .......

how much would a box like this run me? but id want it about 16in high and maybe a little smaller on the length or depth

Thank You Denim, so is the new zcon going to be more towards SQ or SPL...or both High out put daily listening. whooaaa i like what i hear haha, hmmm very interesting any estamated dates?

Haha, yeah, I watched that vid too. What else do you know about the company though? The reason I found this company was because of that black chick, Ladie something with numbers, but, wasn't much impressed... Lmao i saw that video too where they were metering it but never showed where the mete was hahaha, i garantee that was a port reading

And the vidoes that you talk about tremonic have proven it, was not saying the btl was ungodly from the start (In some cases ) it was ment to mean more along the lines if the zcon was a spl monster or a great sounding subwoofer....or Both haha

Thank You Denim, so is the new zcon going to be more towards SQ or SPL...or both

no i know where your coming from it was more ment to be sarcastic then anything haha. was hoping along the lines to get if it was more geared to spl or sq

ohhhhhhh hehe do i hear a btl murderer on it way??

lol a few places here and there, but yea when i click store it only shows dcons icons and xcons