ford302redneck

Doors are already deadened, may add some more. I know how to install, everything I posted. I just hope it becomes what Im looking for.

So I know what SQ means and I'm not going 100% that route. I want something that sounds good to my ears. I don't want a flat band but then again I don't want a U either. I want a good blend of bass to midbass and no harsh highs, but I do like loudish tweeters. Not the cheap hood ninja ones where they have 4 sets. To start off, its going in my 01 Ford F250 CrewCab. I'm thinking of Headunit- Kenwood DoubleDin(no sure on which yet.) Subbass- 2 10 AA Chaos(Behind backseat) Midbass/Midrange -AA 7" CF mid(Factory Door location) Tweeter- AA Seas tweeter Processor- Not sure yet. (I like the RF 3sixty) Sub amp- Sundown SAZ1500v2(or 2000d) Mid amp- Crossfire VR404 bridged Tweeter amp- Not sure yet. Need a 50x2 All this isn't set in stone. Advise would be greatly appreciated.

Honestly way I read this, you don't want your clients to know how their product is made. How is that for their own good? Some companies may not care about this, which if it was me I would. If I put my companies name on a product I want to know how its made, the time and effort involved and why I'm picking your buildhouse over all the others.

Nick(NDMStang65) is a AA dealer and can get you whatever you want. You can shoot him a email at [email protected]

I can't hear a difference in RCA's for subbass. And I think this guy asked for a kit. I like Knukonceptz, just my personal opinion.

I like comment where the 99z will handle 4kw daily. bahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

And Also, doesn't your EARS have feeling in them? When you feel the pressure in them?

I said the numbers wasn't 100% true, cause I don't remember the exact number, like the tenth and thousandth. They was around abouts. Lol, just cause I can hear a difference doesn't mean I can sit in a car and tell you HOW loud it is. That's what the meter is for. Plus some cars sound way louder to the ear yet quieter on the meter than others. That was a stupid comment. But I've done a few details to my setup before, heard a noticeable difference, so I thought it was 3dBs, like everybody said. And was only 1.2. I could tell which way my box position was louder to my ear. Wasn't on the meter, in dB Drag legal, cause of being on the other side of the car and at the dash.

Sweet.

Still I never said anybody was wrong. But I was stating my side. It has no real proof, but its hard to make u believe what I hear/feel, period. I just notice change, hearing and feeling.

at the same frequency all three times? also.. if any of those tests were clipped.. or clipped more than the other.. a square wave will produce peaks in MANY frequencies which will cause your ear to perceive a sound audibly louder than what it might be because of frequency shift. Same frequencies, I was burping, rolling volume. All these numbers was round abouts, not 100% sure on the exacts until I pull up my old thread. Don't know about clipped, didn't scope them or clamp, so have no idea of actual power. Point is, I sat there and hear differences that wasn't 3dBs apart. I know the theories. I know power compression. My point is, I know what I heard.

Why can't they be? If you know your setup up and down, you can hear 1-2db difference. Example. I tested 3 amps. 500 watt 750 watt and 1500watt. Same sub same car same day. First run with 500 watt amp. 142. 2nd run with 750 watt amp 143. And it was a BIG difference to me. Third run, with double power was 144.5. And another BIG noticeable difference. I could go pull up the old post on ca.com with pictures and proof if needed.

In this case: Audibly, No. Measurably, on a meter...Maybe. How much is hard to predict, but it won't be a large increase by any stretch of the imagination. It's not about the absolute value of the wattage increase. It's about the amount of the increase relative to the starting point, and relative to the behavior of the subwoofers both thermally and mechanically. As Bangin' pointed out above, a 2kw increase from 500w is much different than a 2kw increase from 7kw. If you say it'll maybe gain on the meter, then I have to say it'll maybe have a audible difference. You can't give a 100% correct answer cause you have no properly tested the setup on hand. Everybody lately has been saying you don't ever need extra power. 2500 watts is as good as 3500, so why does all the people buy bigger instead of smaller? For no gain? I think not.

I meant in your setup... People throw all these formulas and such to determind spl, and it doesn't work. Way to many variables. I read a review of the SMD by dBdom, over on SMD's forum. He basicly said anything below 3500 watts the Mayhems was louder, but according to people on this site, there won't be any gains from 2500 watts to 3500 watts. So to the ear, you can buy 1 4500 and 2 Mayhems to be just as loud to the ear and minimal to the meter. Which I think is complete bullshit. I'm really wanting to do some testing to determine if this is true. I like overpowering,I like having the extra, way I see it, you can always turn down. But you can never turn up. I think if you have the extra money, room, and batteries get the 4500s.

So adding ~2000watts will not gain ANYTHING?

It doesn't work quiet the same way. Amp can be clipped to hell and back and it show up on termlab as a clean wave.

Im sure Nick will want to check this out. Im sure this guy isnt suppose to be doing this. At that, he cant deliver those subs anymore they arent made.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/109640968/any_subwoofres_you_want.html ROFL. Thought this was funny.

My Blackberry can't view it. This sucks.

I visit SMD for vendor section and cause it has a mobile version. I don't know if I can even vote on a phone.

Well take pictures of stuff you can. Doesn't have to be a full tour. I think the problem is, other companies IA builds for might not want there pictures out that IA builds their stuff maybe? Take some pictures of cool machines. Doesn't have to "show" any products.

I don't have full details of your test methods, but I would that you could hear a .5db difference in subbass with a BTL playing at the level of 2-3kw. (or in most circumstances for that matter). In the more sensitive regions of the hearing (midrange, for example) at certain listening levels where your ears aren't being stressed I would agree it's possible for someone to notice a .5db difference, although they probably wouldn't describe it as a difference in volume but rather some other subjective term such as a change in "warmth" or "detail". But in the subbass, especially at high listening levels.....no, probably not. Chances are I could keep playing the same test tone over and over at the same SPL and you'd think you were hearing differences.....especially if you were expecting there to be differences. Unless there were extremely stringent testing conditions maintained, over a multitude of test sessions to verify results, and correct interpretation of the results (you could simply guess and average a right answer 50% of the time) then you probably didn't test anything at all. Sorry I didn't lay my test out for everybody else. This was personal. I'm sorry I can tell differences. That 3dbs to hear a noticeable is bullshit to me. My test was at 45hz and around 140-145dbs. Done right at 15 tests. And I guessed right every time. Now it could be different at 150dbs and so on. But I just stated I can hear the difference of a 1000watts I'm sure. But it could be different details I am hearing that makes it seems its louder or quieter. But regardless I could tell. Also this was a setup I've listened to quiet a lot, which could of effected the outcome. Now somebodies setup I hear today then again next week, I can't tell a difference.

Increase the box? He already said 4.5 cuft. Honestly I think I can tell to my ear 1000watt difference. I've used a termlab and my ears can hear .5 differences. Did a blind test, just to see. But that's just me. Everybodies ears are different. IMO a fully loaded BTL isn't gonna shine on 2000watts like I think it would on 3000watts. Its a personal choice on exactly how loud you want your setup.

Old Q was around 36lbs. IIRC.

Wow, these new motors have been a nightmare to get them fully rolling.