audio-neon

welcome, and you will love that amp.

First off, I do have a huge room, its like 38'x30'x6'2". For video I will probably be getting a 42" flat screen plasma. And I wanna run 7.1.

I love the way I have my hertz tweets set up, they are seeing about 1/4th the power of my morels and are not noticeable at all, but my soundstage is now in front of me, head-level vs. foot level.

I would like to add, that I love the way these subs sound so much I went out and bought a new set of components. Oh, and crossovers in setup #2 were sub 63 hz -24 db slope, mids 63 hz -24 db slope, tweets 3150 hz -12 db slope. I added a set of hertz deici tweets today to help resolve my sound stage being in my feet.

Suggestions are welcome, this won't be built until next year, still have to build the room and everything.

I would just do fronts as well, look into morel, mb quart, focal, DD, dls, image dynamics, hertz etc..

I love horns, and am thinking about getting a pair later on this summer instead of buying a second pair of tweets.

Here is a little list of the equipment I am looking at getting. Reciever: Yamaha Rx-v661 Dvd: Yamaha DVD-C750 Speakers: 3 pairs of Axiom Audio M3v2 bookshelves Axiom Audio Vp-100v2 center Substage Amp: Behringer EP2500 The woofer(s) is still undecided, but that is ok, because this will be next years project. Leaning towards a single TC sounds 3000 (15") or a Fi Q (18")

I am just wondering, coming from an Sq person to spl, I still tend to choose amps for clean power and heaps of headroom, size is never really an issue (as in footprint) as I will make it fit. I rarely even look at features as well. (mostly because I am running active, all I really need is a gain.

no hints or anything but have had over 300 posts, and would love a Q 10. LOL!!! ^^^ who me?

that's awesome, love the flared port.

I will be submitting mine shortly.

there is always the hifonics bxi2006.

PART 1: Ported Set-up: Eclipse cd8455 head unit Eclipse Ea4000 amplifier Memphis MC60? co-axials Sundown SAZ-1500d 2 10" TC sounds Oem woofers (4 ohm dvc) Woofers were in a 2.37 cubic foot box tuned to 32 hz with 24 sq inches of port. Mids were in kicks. Customer Service: What can I say, I called Heather multiple times, she even put me on the phone with the design engineer who was on the phone with me for nearly an hour. So I would have to say the customer service was good. Although an automated tracking number with purchase would be a nice feature (no waiting for the company to email the information, the shipping company does it for them. The Fun Part So after some procrastinating, I decided that I needed bass, and modified my box from my Diamond D1 woofers.(2.3x cubic feet tuned to 32 hz) So got the subs wired down to 1 ohm on my trusty Sundown Audio Saz-1500d amplifier feeding each sub ~900 watts. CLASSICAL: First cd of choice is a greatest hits of Mozart and Beethoven. This of course is where the fun started finding the optimal crossover frequency and slope (-12 hz slope @ 80h) I was actually surprised that these subs were involved in the music, but did not overpower or steal any glory from my front sound stage. Rock: Next up was a little Black Sabbath (ironman and war pigs) and an Atreyu cd (love double bass). At first I thought the subs were starting to overpower my midbass, but realized about 2 minutes into black sabbath that my front component rca's somehow got switched. Fixed it and started the song over. All I can say is that these little subs amazed me. Awesome output, but completely under-control, even during high volume blasting. Started up Atreyu, expecting to finally find a weakness in this sub, turned the volume up and just let the subs rip track after track of perfect bass beats. Rap: I have a weird rap selection (from being an sq guy before spl). First track, Ludacris' Blueberries. Houston I had massive flexing going on in my car, but even with rap the subs were easily adjustable to level out the sound. Next up was Chamillionaire's Look better from behind, I actually thought that something was wrong because I was hearing bass lines that I have never heard before in that song. The Final Test: Put an Official Iasca test cd in the car and just listened. Seemed to blend very well with my front soundstage. Absolutely loved the George Williams (throne room) and the pink panther theme song. Got through all 42 tracks and decided to play 1812 overture. On the first cannon shot I choked on my vault. It sounded soo real, I could feel my heart beating from adrenaline. Now for the Ratings: Value: 10 SQ: 7.5 Spl:9.5 Versatility (LSQ): 9 Construction: 9.8 For the nitty gritty of this sub. -Very box picky, did have to play with a few settings to smooth out my bass curve. -I am not the biggest fan of push terminals because they make it harder to run 8 ga. power wire for speaker wire. -It is a very deep sub, basically making standard cab trucks a no-no for this woofer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PART 2: Sealed So after reviewing these subs in a ported box not designed for them, I thought that there was definitely some more sq potential from these woofers. So here is the set up: HU: Eclipse cd8455 Front amp: Eclipse ea4000 Front Stage: Memphis Pulse components (ran active) Sub Amp: Sundown SAZ-1500d Subs: 2 TC sounds oem 10" Box: 1 cubic foot sealed box per woofer, front is in kicks. Entire system is ran active. Sq tuning was done by my buddy who competes in expert class in Iasca. Here are some pics (click to see larger image) of my set-up: So here it is: First Song up was Fergie's "London Bridge", was listened to at a high volume. I would have to say that even though it is synthesized bass, it sounded really natural. Second song up was "Walk with me in Hell" by Lamb of God. Now for any of you that have never heard this song, go buy it (they sell it as a single). This song has some really intricate (not to mention fast) double bass. First off, you can tell the difference between the bass guitar and bass drum. I really love the definition between bass drum hits (extremely fast transient response). Next up was Beethoven's "Fur Elise". The whole purpose of auditioning this song was to determine how nicely the sub frequencies rolled over into mid frequencies without being audible, and this sub did that very well. The last song was "An American in Paris" by Gershwin, I love the brassy sound this sub woofer was capable of producing for tuba bass frequencies, and the slight resonance required to make a timpani drum sound like a timpani drum. Now for the Ratings: Value: 10 SQ: 9.7 Spl:8.6 Versatility (LSQ): 9.1 Construction: 9.8 FINAL VERDICT: BUY THESE even if you don't need them, they would make awesome home theater woofers as well.

It sounds much better when you let the midbass do from about 60-300hz, and then cross your components over higher. Cleaner sound, because the components aren't trying to reproduce any bass at all, and it's left to speakers that can do it more accurately. That would work too, haven't decided exactly how we are gonna do it yet. This is all looking to the future, I know I compete in spl now but sq is still in my blood.

welcome back

I am running active, just looking to fill in the gap from my spl box to my components (which because they are in pre-fab kicks means that I am getting no mid-bass out of them.

you should be good with music.

don't forget to invite your friends.

I am going to be doing 10"s in my buddies 05 roush convertible. If yours is a vert, I would stick with 10"s ported.

I am looking to run a 100.2 later on this season and throw a pair of DD w6.5's up front to handle 50-90 hz. I know I compete in spl now, but I love good clean music.

Jacob got four of them, lol! Doing something with a boat, and than one to his brother and 2 for something else.

make no mistake, i also have a four channel running as well, that runs the same amount of fuses (although rated at less power). I am also doing all of this on a alt that is nearly a decade old.

Unfortunatly due to $ constraints, new subs wont be for a little while. Those ones still had a little left in them though. Copper and new box for sure though. What do you think I should run for box Ryan? I'd say build a 5 cube box and use external aeros so you can trim em' and tune. Then stuff the box with whatever to displace some volume and start over with the ports until you find whats loudest. You'll have to find what position and frequency works best. If you're feeling ambitious, your best bet will probably be to seal the trunk and fire forward - that seems to be the way to go with trunks. That's next on my list of things to do. Did that in my car and lost .8 db's. Working on a sweet spot in my trunk now. (although running sealed till the new box is built). There is a spot in my trunk that at 45-50 hz flexxes the area right along the inside of the windsheild really well. Been playing around with that spot with the test box and hit pretty well. Silverbane: I know what you mean about cash. I would get TC sounds OEM 10" woofers instead (350 for a pair). They are effin beasts.

I think with your set-up you should take a hit in cone area and drop down to A. I should be in the mid to high 40's with two saz-1500d's and 2 10" woofers for this season, in a pretty similar vehicle (trunk and basic dimensions). To be really competitive in B wouldn't you need four 1500's or at least a pair of 3000's???