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They are working on a 22" basket. http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...st&p=466414

What does your front stage look like?

Ordering process and packaging. I posted in a topic at SSA asking if they were available in D4 coils because they only listed D2 the places I looked. Nick told me they could do D4 and to email him if I was interested. So following various threads here and other places I decided to go with the Flatlynes because I like to be different and not to many people have them. I emailed Nick(Incriminator) on the 22nd of December and got a reply within a half an hour. I sent payment 10 minutes after I got a reply and an hour after that he emailed me and told me they were added to the list. After all the holidays he emailed me on the 5 of January and told me they were going out that day and I received them on the 7th of January. Upon receiving them I was impressed by the outside of the package, fragile tape and stickers letting the handlers know to be careful with the packages. I like the foam cushion protecting the top of the woofer and the woofer was in a plastic bag as well. The motor was sitting in a half box lined with foam to prevent it sliding around. Each woofer also came with a little care package consisting of a sticker, pamphlet showcasing their product line up and mission statement, a user manual for the woofer consisting of wiring diagrams, enclosure recommendations, and warranty info, and a disclaimer sheet explaining hearing loss and the air driven cooling used. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Build quality. This driver is heavier then it looks, shipping weight is 30lbs and I believe that is all driver. I couldn't imagine the top assembly being more then 5lbs leaving about 25lbs for the motor. The surround on the sub feels to be really heavy duty just from the feel of it and I punched through some of the mounting holes which was a little resistive for a tiny screwdriver. The cone appears to be very rigid having a smooth feel to the back and a textured fiberglass feel on the front. The dust cap on the driver is very tasteful not flashy(which I like, not a flashy person at all). The dust cap is also very shallow not a big convex shape also referred to as boob cone. The drivers suspension is stiff only moving about a 1/4 inch when pressing firmly. The driver has stitched leads which is a nice touch and the coils all measured in spec of 2.8 per coil. The ADC is an interesting feature on their lines which raises the basket about 1/4 inch from the motor assembly. Playing the drivers free air you can really tell it works, just playing a 30Hz tone for a minute at ~75watts the motor seemed a few degrees cooler after playing. That means the coils should have stayed cooler then without it. And last the motor assembly, it is about 8 & 1/4 inch in diameter with a top plate of 1 & 1/4 inch tall, about 1 inch tall magnet, and a bottom plate that is about 3/4 of an inch. Almost forgot about the beautiful "black chrome" finish on the motor. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Listening impressions Some of the test music included. There was just to many to list. Trick Daddy - F**kin Around 50 Cent

I will any chance I get.

:bigclap: That is understandable. Although I'm sure my 2300f should put out about 400 at 8ohms.

It will add a little but really not enough to measure/make a difference.

Thanks guys. I have heard a couple people (who's opinions are respected) that run them with the Mach5's and speak well of the combo.

Those are some good ideas, I was thinking of something cheap like a couple layers of shrink tubing.

Nice, Have you though of a protective coating for it?

http://www.davidnavone.com/cart.asp?24&cat=5 Check out the N-22V You can use that on any amp to have a remote gain.

Thanks. I just got them in today. I only got to listen to them for like 15mins and still need to tune it.

Tidying up wires a bit. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Subs are in and hooked up working. Just need to adjust settings. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image

Vehicle 1999 Pontiac Grand Prix Electrical = Big 3, 2 runs of kicker 1/0, 1 stock battery up front and 1 Deka Intimidator 9A31 in the trunk. Possibly HO alternator. Head unit = Pioneer DEH - P880PRS using active. Using KnuKoncepts Krystal RCAs (need to purchase cables) Tweeters and amp = SEAS Prestige 27TFFNC/G powered by a USAcoustics 2200F (need to purchase tweeters) Mids and amp = Mach 5 Audio MLI-65 powered by a USAcoustics 2300F Subwoofers and amp = 2 Incriminator Audio Flatlyne 12's each in their own 1.2ft^3 box powered by a Sundown Audio Prototype amp Raammat Sound Deadening (still need to purchase) Electrical is done Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Head unit is in. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Box just about done just need to carpet, router edges, and cut holes. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Box all done with carpet. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Test fitting wood for a false floor. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image False floor carpeted and done. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image Testing Box fitment. Reduced: 82% of original size [ 1024 x 768 ] - Click to view full image

How strict are your stipulations? 1. MTX 801D birthsheet reads 597W RMS @ 2 ohms 12.5V 2. Installing since 1999. Headunits, Amplifiers, Subs 3. I think so. 4. Are we allowed to use a current build providing the driver fits in it? current box is 1.33cuft sealed no displacements accounted for. 5. OK 6. OK

Just enter in what ever the thickness of your wood is less then your max depth. So if your using .75" wood and your max depth is 16" enter in 15.25" and when you add your double baffle it will be 16" deep.

My main concern would be moisture be it from snow from your shoes(if you live in snowy area) or from a spilled drink that runs under the seat (we've all done it).

I'd be interested to see if you could get similar SQ to the BLs if you put the Niteshades in a different box. From my understanding Niteshades like smaller boxes.

There is no rule that you tune to the drivers FS.

That claim with no link. It is probably the UK distributor BladeIce. http://www.bladeice.com/

https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraudio.com/...view.shopscript

See if you can find specs and get max dimensions.

When you compose a message the is a couple boxes right above the send message button. One of them is to send a copy to sent items folder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war Sucks dont it.

http://www.incriminatoraudio.com/update/in...age=3&cat=2