SS Teacher

I had SSA design it for "as flat a frequency response from 33 to 80 hz as possible" with little to no size restrictions except for height. It's HUGE, probably 3 cubit feet or more for a 10" but it sounds GREAT. I have eclectic tastes, mostly EDM and pop, but classic rock, old school rap, old country, and just about anything else except new country and opera.

Yes, doors are NOT an option as I frequently take them off! I'm utilizing the speaker pods that are located about knee level on the right and left side of the dash. The concept is pretty cool as the mids get their own sealed enclosure. Aiming will be tricky as it's a really tight fit and there is no way to rotate the speaker with them in place. I could try and fab a ring to slightly aim them. How critical is aiming of a 6 1/2" mid running from 80 to 3,000 hz?

Nice Jeep! Running 33"s or 35"s?

That is an amazing build! That model year had some audio changes, most notably the absence of tombstone tweeter pods replaced by 3 1/2" full range speakers, and the roll bar set up looks very different. I couldn't mount any electronics (other than marine components) in the rear area because it gets wet from time to time. Thankfully the underseat area has always been dry.

One suggestion, if you're worried about your sub drowning out your front stage you could run a single sub. If you're look at 2 GCONs you could go with a single ICON or XCON.

No, it's a stick and I have large feet, plus I take it off road in some pretty deep water and the floorboards get soaked.

The pods are stationary, I popped off the cover took out the factory tweet and replaced it with the JBL. I might have just enough room to fabricate a mounting ring so I can play with angles. The roll bar is good for passengers and volume, but it destroys the sound stage. I've read there is no stereo separation below 250 Hz, but I don't posses the skills necessary to get get a good sound stage AND mount mid bass behind me. I'd love to have mastered the secret of the USD Grand National that ran 12"s in the rear for mid bass! I'm going to hang on the Mikro just in case, it's such a cool little amp and the only Mantz designed amp I have. I did find this no so little gem on Offer Up for $50.

I don't normally run rear fill, but in a Wrangler, door off, top down, it helps with the volume at highway speeds. When I switch to active I'll cut the rear fill out completely and focus on quality over quantity. I've entertained the idea of putting dedicated mid bass, say 80-150 Hz drivers in the sound bar, but I'd image staging would be a nightmare.

Got it, thanks!

Not really sure what's going on here....

GPS updates vary by manufacturer, but they're usually more than $100. I love my GPS unit and will have one from here on out, but I won't pay for map updates. If I'm dropping $800 or more for Nav they should be able to autoupdate without charging so much. Planned obsolescence....

Beware of one thing. On axis and tweeter is usually not desired. Location can stay, but I'd play with aiming. Looks like I have a plan of action! I'll have my art/engineer friend fab be some angled spacers so I can play with the tweeter angles and I'll keep the JBLs for now.

I joined Imgur and posted a build log, but now when I try and copy and paste the URL on SSA the field stays shaded light red and the picture won't post. Any idea what's going on?

Currently I'm running a JBL 6 1/2" component series. It's loud (that's a good thing) but harsh. I've been wanting to go active for a long so I purchased the Evil mids and the kicker DSP. I don't have a PC and am reasonably intimidated with the prospects of borrowing one and downloading software and setting everything so I settle on the kicker. Plus, there's only so much you can do in a Jeep Wrangler...

I'm going to go active for the first time and need some help. Eventually I'll pair my SSA Evil Mids and XCON 10" with Evil tweeters, but spring break is coming and I'd like to install what I have and run a temporary and inexpensive tweeter until the Evil tweeters come to market. Info: 2013 Jeep Wrangler, mids will go into the speaker pods mounted in the dash, on axis. The stock tweeter location is on 'tombstone' pods on axis on the top of the dash. I don't have any flexibility on speaker location as I frequently have the doors off. I take it off road and it gets a little wet so kick panels aren't an option either. I'll be powering the front stage with an NVX JAD 800.4 and the processing will be through a Kicker Front Row DSP. I need a 1" on axis tweeter that can play down to 3,000 Hz and I don't want to spend more than $30 each because it'll only be temporary. I could run the JBL power series tweeters I currently have, but I'm not sure they will sound good crossed over at 3,000 Hz. I got the JBLs for $90 and they are LOUD which is great for a Jeep, but the tweeters sounded very harsh to me.

When I ordered the XCON I paid for an enclosure design. I never asked how many cubic feet it is, just told them "I want the flattest frequency response from 33-85 hz." The box is HUGE, I'm guessing 3 or more cubit feet net for a single 10", but it sounds GREAT! Only reason I'd seriously consider switching from the PPI to the RF T-1500 is for astetics and a better fit. It was banging on that T-500, but if I'm going to change might as well go big or go home.

I have a 160 amp alternator and not willing to upgrade outside of The Big 3. I don't have room for a spare battery either, SO I ordered my XCON in double 1 ohm so I can run my sub amp at 2 ohm and take it easy on the electrical. All the Korean amps I've seen put out their rated power at 1 ohm. Finding ANY amp that does 1500 at 2 ohms is NOT cheap.

I'm running a PPI Black Ice 5000.1D and it's okay, but I'm contemplating biting the bullet and getting a T1500-1bdCP. They're so damn secy and their size profile would work better in the Jeep, but I'm not sure I wanna drop $800.

Of course the RFs are louder, they're bigger! On a more serious note, I had a T-500 and was very happy with output.

I had a Challenger and LOVED the car, but that trunk was a black hole for bass. The deck lid and thick, comfy seats seemed to absorb and restrict all the sound. I miss the car, but the PITA it was trying to get bass in a coupe.

A build log? AWESOME, keep it coming!

Hahahahahaha!!! Literally Lol'ing! The symbolism, the poetry... you sir are a genius!

I'm not blaming you for choosing or not choosing any speaker, amp, or brand of anything. You didn't want to wait and that's a completely valid choice. I did choose to wait for my XCON, but that doesn't mean you made the wrong choice for you. My point was Rockford Fosgate and JL Audio have tremendous brand power and have legitimate control over their pricing (hell, JL charges a dollar a watt on some of their amps), but most companies in car audio have little or no control over their pricing. There are dozens of small internet brands (like SSA) that are successful businesses that sell to a niche market. Competition is strong and and that gives us, the consumer, lots of options. I'm willing to wait for certain products and not willing to wait for others, that's the beauty of a market economy. Peace

Awesome! It's been a while since I bought some goodies from the forum, could you PM me the directions? Now all I need is the Evil tweets to come out and a spring break to put them in!

Dang, wish you were selling just one amp. It'd be perfect for the Evil mid's I just bought. While I'm wishing...I'd like to place an order for a pair of Evil tweeters to pair with aforementioned mids....