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i remember the sirens going off all times of night when i lived in ft reily, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO world war two alerts

see you knew... yeah thats right

i used to know one of these, and after i sold it.. a few people here said thay would have bought it.... well i have the chance to get another one... does anyone have an idea how how many watts at its lowest ohm load... and an idea of what that load maybe

how do you like those crunch GP3000d-PRO's? vids?

the first one was the btl 18 and the second was the ssd 18.

Fs: 00.0 Hz | 00.0 Hz Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.5 Ohms/coil Qms: 0.00 | 0.00 Qes: .00 | .00 Qts: .00 | .00 Mms: 000g | 000g Cms: 0.00mm/N | 0.00mm/N Sd: 1210cm^2 | 1210cm^2 Vas: 00.0 l | 00.0 l Spl: 00.0dB 1W/1m | 00.0dB 1W/1m Bl: 00.0 N/A | 00.0 N/A Xmax: 16mm * | 16mm * Rms: 2000W * | 2000W * Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft Ported box: 5-10cuft | 5-10cuft Sub OD: 18.500

son of a bitch. sorry guys:D

well i feel like i learned somthing, and i wanna learn more about it... bko your right i have told people not to get the btl because thay only wanted to run a 1000 watts. thats true... when someone ask about a btl i feel like thay should know it takes power... and it takes power to make power. i donno if im projecting my thoughts well. efficiency is somthing i need to learn more about as i said, one time that i tested my thoughts, jl 500/1 on a hifonics goliath 3200 watt 12 and then again on a jl w6 15's 600 watts peak or so jl was much louder. so it was efficiency and efficiency only? nothing to do with RMS

Don't take me the wrong way. I'm a guy who has a pair of XXX18s and 5KW rms in my living room.. But I also see a lot of misinformation spread all the time, and this is one of those times. We are here to help each other, best way to do that is to get the facts straight when you give people advice. And saying a BTL needs more power to be any louder than any othe FI sub, is, well.... misinformation... then why dont you run 500 watts to your xxx's? why are you running 5k to them? I don't want to take the words out of 95's mouth or try to represent him, but I believe the point he's getting at is that you don't NEED 5000 watts. At 500 watts the BTL should still be the loudest of the FI bunch because of its higher efficiency. However you can obviously get even louder with the BTL due to its higher power handling than the rest. Which is also why he has 5k on his XXX's. He doesn't NEED it, he WANTS it to get even louder. ok, but i cant understand how btl can be louder then any of the other subs on 500 watts. the way i would understand it is that if you get the rms of the subs closer to the output of the at 500 watts. that the rms sub would be louder then the underpowered. and im not just pondering thoughts, i have done it.. i have owned many many types of subs and amps. 500 watts on a 3200 watt rms sub was not louder then 300 watts on a 500 watt rms sub. UNELSS YOUR TELLING ME THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND efficiency and in that case you are right. and i am wrong... and then i will say sorry to mike and anyone else... but i will have to buy a btl. and test that for my self.

ok.. i may still not be understanding this, all i see is ONE MORE person DOING ONE THING.. and saying another.\\ cause you cant be telling me all this was just making a point you dont HAVE TO RUN big power.

Don't take me the wrong way. I'm a guy who has a pair of XXX18s and 5KW rms in my living room.. But I also see a lot of misinformation spread all the time, and this is one of those times. We are here to help each other, best way to do that is to get the facts straight when you give people advice. And saying a BTL needs more power to be any louder than any othe FI sub, is, well.... misinformation... then why dont you run 500 watts to your xxx's? why are you running 5k to them?

that was not the question.

Why? Because I'm kind of new here, but one thing I have noticed, pretty much daily are quotes like this- "BTL will need more power which means more electrical upgrades which means blah blah blah" About 10-20 young guys (and girls) really interested in audio who really want to learn get a little dumber every time something like this is posted... LETS DO THIS OVER AGAIN THEN fine get a btl and run 500 watts on it and see how you like it

Ding, nailed it again.... WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE,..... HE JUST SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF YOU AND YOU SAID HE MADE YOUR POINT

thats what i thought... but it seems i have been mis lead my whole life. you have too hayes im sorry.... funny tho.. i have yet to hear anyone that owns a btl that DOES NOT FEED IT OVER 2k.... or any big sub like that.

I would love to know who and where. none of that matters. its just the point, and its not just mods, what im sayin is, it happeds.. its hard to make a point when you have people DOING one thing and SAYING another.

i fixed it im not even sure it made sence to me, but all to offten i see mods contradict them selfs

watch out now.. if you ask the man that puts 6k to his btl's he will tell you it sounds better with 200 watts.... and then if you talk about system vs system some people will say OF COURSE ITS LOUDER IT HAS MORE POWER...

lol ok... well throw 500 watts at a btl and then see how you like it.

Home Depot for sure, any local lumberyard would have it.... At my home depot, it costs $17.36 for 1 sheet. -Curt thats very cheap for 1 inch mdf

Sweet. I hope everyone on here reads this thread..... wtf just happend here

i use a saz 3000d on my 2 15 bls

im at 33 hrz, and im low real low...... but people do tell me to try the Q im not sure why... ill have to checkem out

that black vett looks diffrent.

really.... i mean really cause thats not what is preached here.. thats very funny.