Aaron Clinton

The point is that everyone knows why they are doing this. But who is everyone? They are the loyal customer base that has supported them all along the way. I feel this could have been gone about in a better manner. I am not angry about the fact that they are going to a dealer network. I am just not happy as the way it has gone, if you have a devoted customer base you do everything to keep them. I wish there was some sort of announcement that the prices direct were going to skyrocket a few weeks before it actually happened. Not just oh crap someone just called to order a sub that has not changed and it almost doubled in price. OH well, what does it matter what I think anyway. More power to Mike (SS), Nick (SI), and Nick (IA).

great work Ryan

I would start with the ones reccomended on the website. www.crystalmobileaudio.com

I am curious the differences between the 8200, RL-s, TC 4Hp same here If i remember i'll ask TC when i go down to SD

sorry, which other subs have 50+ mm of xmax? people are getting way too caught up on the direct pricing. you go to a dealer (dealer's can ship you know) and get pricing that is very close to what the direct pricing was previously. these changes support the dealer network rather than kill it like they were doing before. because people on here consider themselves part of the "internet DIY" crowd, RE is automatically losing a lot of sales? if you are foolish enough to think that internet DIY people who change their favourite sub everyweek are an important niche in a company's success, then i would be most excited at the prospect of some of you starting a business. it worked for JL Audio, didn't it? worked for macintosh, audison, brax, tru, dls, etc.... get real man. take your energy and use it in a business course or something. First XMAX is not everything, there are so many other factors in a sub that effect its performance, but in this case even in my improved financial state, I cannot sanely pay anywhere near that much for a sub. Second, since I know of no dealers near me, lets see how this will work out, dealer pays one price, they pay to have it shipped to them, they add the mark up, sell it to me, add the shipping, wait a minute it is still much higher than before, and in my case since there is no "local" dealer why do I need to support someone elses local dealer buy paying a large mark up for a sub that does not justify that price? (run on sentence again) 3rd, do me a favor do not come to my forum and call me a fool, the internet DIY crowd has long had a very strong RE following and there is the weekly poser sub of the week change, but non has ever had the constant die hard following of RE, more so than even RF and Kicker that I have seen, and I am highly active all over the car audio world online. 4th, in my many years in and around car audio and home audio never was there this massive internet following for macintosh, audison, brax, tru, dls, that even approaches 1/3 the level of RE, RE has a large line up and is spread out over a large group of different type of buyers. Macintosh, audison, brax, tru, dls are pretty much all high end low volume $$$ equipment, which means they cannot have any where near the following of RE. JL audio on the other hand, well hype promotion and a few decent products have kept them in the forefront. 5th, do not insult me about taking a business course, at this moment I am in the middle of my second masters, this one is in Operations Research, meaning I am taking Statistics and Risk Management at this very moment, so I might have a clue. Lastly, do not come on a board unknown and attack the admin, NOT SMART, I had managed a car audio shop for 2 years while working on my undergrad, and from my experience if I was still there and not online reading and watching the industry everyday, I would not take an order from RE (pretty much unknown outside the online DIY crowd and SPL world) if they came calling to see about setting me up as a dealer unless they gave it to me at a very large discount and written promise that I will be able to move X amount of product with incentive. Do me a favor think before you speak, (sorry for the run sentences at the moment I dont car about punctuation)

well the word on the street is that the new L7 is far and way better than the outgoing model which makes me curious enough to find someone with one

its a good truck and in great shape

welcome heather, Im Aaron

thats a question I cannot answer until I own an 8200... but found some Crystal Comp 12s cheap I want too

I think so, if it is that long and still and unproven sub, where as LMT is proven and Eclipse has never released junk. I love eclipse and because of you I want one of these too.

Am I misreading you? bail on the DIY and go with the 8200? if so I like that idea

very attractive

they are going by the ILS figures I see

I knew that was the amp, just did nto know the model or the wattage. By the looks of the internals it will be alot more than 500.

by what you just said does that mean there will be US Amps with RE badging?

I believe there is a guy selling Crystal Comp 12s for cheap on CarAudio.com. I am considering grabbing one you should look into one of them also.

I forget, how many watts is it getting?

I think my run on sentences are worse than his. But I should have bought a truck load of RE8s when I had a chance, oh well. The business they lost in me will be more than made up for in one or two rip offs err I mean sales.

I got the shirts and hats designed in my head already.

hope it is a good b-day, love your subs

with smaller box requirements they should be, but I wonder if the 8200 has H2 syndrome, where the company posts small box requirements and when in reality the sub needs a much larger box

pimp slap them Diddle

most traffic I have seen in here in a while, I love it

I am curious the differences between the 8200, RL-s, TC 4Hp

paulie, I am slightly biased, over the past few years I have seen and read about the very questionable business practices by eD. More than enough for me to never buy their product. I would have mentioned the RE RE sub here normally, but their prices just jumped way about the realm of reality. As for Acendant, there have been mixed reviews on many of their products. Yes their prices are great, but there has been numerous cases of customer service issues reported in such a short time of being in business. Much like what happened here with Ology Audio, over on SIN, AA had a forum but due to some sub par business ways they were pulled from the website. I would consider looking for a used sub, in many cases people buy a decent sub but end up selling a car or buying a different amp and they suddenly have a sub that is still semi new in great shape. I will keep my eye out for a good sub in your price range.