You answer your own question and I listen to five different system before I pick this setup. The only thre things that are not Treo is the head (Premier770) amps (F21&F29) and wire (Hooker). well I mean you can mix and match thats all, I would love and all Orion or Eclipse or Power Bass system but $$$ is limiting me Denim I did not mean to coming off as a smart a$$. The question is how much does a Power Bass System run for in the part of the contry you live at? The reason is the local dealer sales his Power Bass products at a fair price. see thats the thing, there are no PB dealers near me, the more I look at the new PRs the more I want to try them (oh and I know you wre not being a smart ass, I am an easy going guy dont worry, takes a lot to piss me off, but good to have you here, and I would like to hear some recent Treo reviews, and you are the man to do it )