Aaron Clinton

Sounds good. Well, having my coffee and reading all the emails and assessing the 3D model I am working on. Damn day job getting in the way again.

At SBN, I was spectating a conversation (did a lot of observing that weekend, no re-coning, ZING!) where one of the competitors outside was discussing his thoughts on doing it for raising and widening the stage for judging.

Good point, but how did EXO get better products? Youtube and all the inexperienced kids that follow him. Also, there are plenty of companies doing LOC's or simple plug and play add-on systems. But, the average car audio person that is going to be doing a sizable upgrade to their system, usually is not doing it in a car that has fully integrated audio/HVAC arrangements.

Yeep Yeep Yeep!!! Don't pretend you can't hear that in your head.

I hope no one is surprised by this. Should not be shocking news for one of the prize technologies touted on a Chrysler vehicle to be crap. Just so many reasons year after year to never touch any of their products (discounting the Viper). Speaks volumes about the billions Damlier pumped into that company and the well done tried and true tech they passed on and Chrysler is still this bad. Daimler actually didn't pump in billions but instead looted their cash for other developments. While that may be an issue now I'd consider it a growing pain and I fully expect Chrysler to make a huge improvement in the upcoming years. Of course it isn't like htey could fall much lower than a few years back, lol That's news to me. I was under the impression that Damlier intended to buy and save the company from another failure and make it profitable for the future. To me, the difference in price the paid and the price they sold is quite interesting. They bought Chrysler in a spot when they had enough cash to survive for a really long time. When they sold them the cash had magically disappeared. Daimler's facilities had also some major improvements. I hope Chrysler improves, hell we own them.

The youtube effect is only bringing down the industry in my opinion. More and more people are being exposed to more products, while at the same time, the market segment who is growing the fastest, is the youngest group. They are on average, the least experienced, who have not learned the real value of testing/research/specs/enclosure design etc. in terms of planing out a system that is best for their needs. Also, they have the least amount of money and patients, along with being much more swayed by 'show' and less by 'go'. Now, what does all this mean? Well looking at the aftermarket audio scene, there are far more vehicles with aftermarket stereos then 5 years ago greatly due to the explosion of the youngest group of customers. So why are the Brax's/Gensis' of the world in trouble or out of the market like Eclipse, and why are other high end brands like Zapco for example, vastly expanding entry products? In my firm opinion it is supremely effected by those who only care about (read: can only see) the cheapest price possible and 'if lighting stuck' simple marketing figures. In one way, this has really expanded the market, but at the same time, hurt the market. The race to the bottom is much faster then the race for superior quality and performance (race to the top). In other words, quality is losing badly to quantity. Something many can easily see and effect of this is the drastic reduction of individual designs or ground breaking new technology. In other words, the General Motors philosophy, let someone else do the engineering cheap off shore, and slap multiple different brand logo's on the same thing. This makes much of the game a lot more about marketing and a lot less about engineering. You can make the case for material and part costs going up, but that is not enough to counter act the way the market demand is shifting. This is my opinion, but I have been in the industry since the mid-90's and it has changed drastically and I strongly feel quality as gone down a noticeable amount, on average across the industry. Edit: In terms of JL, I like a number of their products, but let's take a moment to think about where they have shifted their efforts, especially in terms of money. JL has a very high capability in terms of engineering and design, much of this is due to how much they invested in their facilities here in the USA. Since then, JL has done mega amounts of marketing and outside of the small format class-D amps and maybe the shallow sub, they have not released too much that is earth shattering or marketing swinging in a while.

I hope no one is surprised by this. Should not be shocking news for one of the prize technologies touted on a Chrysler vehicle to be crap. Just so many reasons year after year to never touch any of their products (discounting the Viper). Speaks volumes about the billions Damlier pumped into that company and the well done tried and true tech they passed on and Chrysler is still this bad. Daimler actually didn't pump in billions but instead looted their cash for other developments. While that may be an issue now I'd consider it a growing pain and I fully expect Chrysler to make a huge improvement in the upcoming years. Of course it isn't like htey could fall much lower than a few years back, lol That's news to me. I was under the impression that Damlier intended to buy and save the company from another failure and make it profitable for the future. To me, the difference in price the paid and the price they sold is quite interesting.

I hope no one is surprised by this. Should not be shocking news for one of the prize technologies touted on a Chrysler vehicle to be crap. Just so many reasons year after year to never touch any of their products (discounting the Viper). Speaks volumes about the billions Damlier pumped into that company and the well done tried and true tech they passed on and Chrysler is still this bad.

is the last piece done? being sent out soon? All Zcon's, new or recone kit's are going in order, finishing 12's today, 15's tomorrow and probably 18's Friday. They will be shipping out shortly after.

Good to see you Randy. lol,,great to be seen,what you been up to man All the same, just more. Still plan to make it down soon, just not positive on design or look just yet, let alone a full day open to drive down and back. Could use some good BBQ.

Good to see you Randy.

Justin in Mesa might have a meter.

I'm in love:

That dog is awesome. Only 17 more emails to go at 11pm.

I had to reset permissions again. Everyone should be good to go now.

I turned the old classifieds section back on. I am slowly moving the old topics back in. Please no more posting classifieds topics in the OT. It can be found here: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/forum/16-for-salewanted/ Hope this helps.

Congrats guys!!!!! Some interesting installs, the inside of the civic is well done.

Re-aggravated the hammy.