I figured as much. Got any ideas for someone like myself to compare your products against perhaps sundown or got any installers you could recommend? I don't have any installers off hand in the area I can suggest. Fine, I'm just gonna go get some BOSS installed anyway. They SLAP man.... What? There are compromises with everything. To get superior quality, performance and value, this is how we have to do it. If we opened up a store front, prices would sky rocket. The beauty is here, you can get unbiased opinions, factual information, install tips and hints etc. and actually speak directly to an owner of the company and people who have actually owned and used the product. Where as in the store, salesmen will lie and do anything just to make the sale at the highest profit possible, and there is no way you are going to get to speak to the owner of the respective brands you are looking at, not to mention the performance per dollar is FAR worse. Dealers don't like us because we do not have arrogant mark up's.