mjmarovi

Definitely a good idea, I recommend calling around some shops, and asking them what they can demo for you. If it was me, I would look up where the nearest authorized dealers are through the manufacturers I am trying to demo, and then call them up and make sure they will have something for me to listen to.

Only describing what drivers you own and saying lane worthy is a joke. The install is really what is important. Someday maybe you'll understand. of course it is all install, when have/did I ever say anything different? my car will be SQ worthy because of my install, not because of the equipment, the equipment is just a bonus to make it that much better.

sorry if I missed it, what amps are you using?

doesn't compute? do you not understand? or am I just not explaining? I don't get what you are trying to tell me in that last post? Yes, when I have my SQ tune set, I let my L4's naturally roll-off both on the high-end and the lower-end. They PLAY down to 60 hz with sufficient audible output, and begin dropping off hard at ~50hz, but still pick up everything down to ~35hz. For those lower frequencies, the 6 1/2's in my doors do enough. So right now my SQ setup is quite solid, and I am in process of picking up the substage and building up the mid-bass for my louder daily driving. After I'm done my vehicle will be SQ lanes worthy, and also have ability to play music over 150 db's. which of course is not SQ, but I will more than 1 tune set on my processor for however I feel like listening to my music at that time. But this thread isn't about me, my system, or what it does, so lets finish helping the OP and find him some speakers. OP: sorry for minor thread-jack, and Sac-town is a ways from me, otherwise I could give you a demo.

from my understanding of the imprint, it only effects eq and time alignment, but xover points are set by the user. you can run the entire "4-way" from the H100, but you would have to have amps that set the HP for the mid-bass and LP for the subs. the only real draw-back is that mid-bass and sub amps would be sharing the RCA signal strength from the sub-out on the processor. that really isn't a huge issue though. I am ignorant for recommending speakers? Every driver I recommended is designed for IB which is exactly how the OP plans to install each driver. doesn't matter whether it is kicks, doors, dash, all the midranges and mid-bass are IB and that is how they are being installed. since he wanted to do a 3-way, on/off axis isn't a huge issue as off-axis mainly effects the midrange and its frequency range, which doesn't have to cover as many octaves sine it is a 3-way. Every driver I listed can work quite well in the install, some are simply better than others. I do understand you are trying to get as much info as possible, but you haven't really asked any specific questions to the OP. In fact, it seems you spend more time replying to me rather than helping the OP. also NCSU, I wouldn't worry about the Pro L1 tweet, the L1v2 will be plenty for you in a 3-way, the Pro L1 is much better suited in 2-way applications because of its lower frequency capabilities.

the optical is sooo worth it though, adds just that little extra! of course only worth it if you are doing a dedicated SQ system.

Lots of good info there from Impious, but I guess i am the only one not afraid to name specific models of speakers I have either used or heard in person that I can have confidence in recommending. I think that list I made above is pretty good, there are a ton more options out there, I mean I didn't name Treo which is one of my fav. companies, but I don't have much hands-on with their mids/highs only subs/amps. as for the Hybrid two-way. It is not heard of that a few guys out there are using only L8's and Pro L1's as their complete system. No dedicated woofer and no midrange. This really depends on placement of the L8's though. In this type of setup the doors are probably not the best choice. best choice would be floor board next to the kick-panel. actually a pretty straight-forward install, and has proven to be excellent in SUV's, just can't be afraid to cut some stuff up. there are a few different build logs of doing this on the hybrid forums. Really for install tips, I would recommend looking through some build logs on www.buwaldahybrids.com whether you decide on their speakers or not, or even like their speakers or not, the installs are top-notch and prove themselves time and time again.

I'm sorry, since when does what processor you're using have to deal with what BRAND name of speakers to purchase? THE OP WANTS SQ AND HAS GIVEN PLENTY OF INFORMATION OF HIS GOALS AND WHAT SIZE. If you still have no clue what he is trying to accomplish, then re-read the thread.

yes, you are right, which is why i said play. output of course drops off pretty hard at about 50hz, but they still play every note. actually I might make a video of them during SQ, it's pretty amazing how much they can move and perform spot on. gettin ready to do a L8, Pro L1 SE setup in a friends ride, he has used JL, CDT Gold, Hertz Mille, and a few others in the past, and everytime he is dissatisfied and wishes he could sound like me, so now he's finally gettin his own Hybrid drivers. haha

I have mid-bass....I use my L4's and play them down to 31.5 hz for SQ demos. I also have a pair of hertz hi-energy 6 1/2's in the doors. I just want to try something different, which is why I don't have 3 sets in the doors mid-bass are still undecided. I think I want to try the Tang Band W6's.

You really could cover all the frequencies with a 2-way. It would be easier to tune as well. Really no need to get the imprint and the H701, one or the other is fine. The imprint will be more novice friendly, and the H701 is more manual tuning. It is kinda pricey, but a Hybrid L8 pair matched with a Legatia Pro L1 would be a 2-way system that would take care of ~40hz and of course up through 25khz. For something less expensive, I mean really "less expensive" is very relative. Tang Band and Peerless have several options whether you are looking to spend 300 dollars or 600 dollars. There is just too much out there, in reality, how much do you really WANT to spend on speakers? sorry for some stuff repeating, lots of stuff in this thread. here's some more finite drivers: for more inexpensive: 8" mid-bass: Tang Band W8, Peerless SLS 8, Polk db8450's, Rainbow W200's, CDT EF80's, Hertz Hi-energy 8's 4" mid-range: Tang Band W4, CDT (right now ES-4 golds on sale high-end stuff), Rainbow SLC 4's, Hertz Hi-energy 4's, MMats pro audio pro 4.0's, Morel Dotech 4's Tweets: CDT TW-25's or 24's. Seas Prestige 1" Textile Dome tweet, Tang Band Ceramic tweets with cloth surround, Image Dynamics NX30's, Mmats pro audio pro 1.0's, Focal TN-47's, Morel MT12's tried to get you a range of prices and a variety of companies. Personally for something that is less than the Hybrids, the Rainbows and CDT's are top-notch. The Hertz actually remind of similar sound as pioneer premier. the tang bands, seas, decent stuff, very inexpensive if you wanted to get an idea of what they're like and wait and upgrade later they would be a good start/entry into the SQ world.

I love my two sets, kicks and pillars it's quite nice hey Dean, where are you located?

there are a lot of great speakers out there, a lot of guys that have concentrated their car audio desire into SQ are running Hybrid Audio. Morel, Focal, they found quite popular in the SQ world as well. DLS, is another great company. I even like Zapco quite a bit. What size drivers are you looking at using for mid-bass and midrange? also, whether you choose them or not, check out the new Hybrid Legatia Pro L1 tweet in the black finish, it is downright dirty! http://www.12velectronics.com/servlet/the-107/HYBRID-AUDIO-TECHNOLOGIES-LEGATIA/Detail they are quite expensive, and really the Pro L1's are a better match for a 2-way system, so not necessarily recommending them to you, I just love the look! lol that website is the only authorized Hybrid online dealer BTW and they do offer pricing for a full 3-way set.

shared sealed chamber should do just fine. did I miss something for the enclosure space? thought you had a navigator. so on top of what you already have you are looking at a 2500 dollar budget? if so, I would suggest a nice 4-channel amp, and a 2-channel amp paired with a processor to be the power behind a great 3-way active setup. if you want to stick with memphis amps you can, nothing wrong with them. If you want recommendations on other amps, then sundown is always a great choice. There are plenty of other choices out there, the alpine PDX are great for something with a small footprint. I also like audison amps. what mounting locations are you looking at doing, and what size drivers do you have room for? this will help out with giving some speaker recommendations.

unfortunately your vehicle may not like the lows....but if your tuning is 35hz, then I am not really surprised you would peak ~40 hz, that sounds about right. add a cube of space and tune down to 30hz, that would make a huge difference. still need an idea of how low you are trying to go?

about the J-bodies....think you can compete with this? Jay-cee lets see some more pics? what you been up to?

the 205 and 505 are the best options. I have the 9887 and love it, using it to run my current active setup. I do not believe it is compatible with the h701 though, just the new imprints. They rid the 701 because it is their lower level processor. They replaced it with the imprint stuff. For the enthusiasts they have the H900 in the F1 status line, but it is wicked expensive. I wish they would have just made a small improvement on the H701, like give it the OPTION to have the auto-tuning feature on the imprint, but keep all the same older features. who knows maybe they will bring it back next year! the audison bit one is pretty sick though, I would recommend at least taking a look at it!

just throwing this out there, do you guys help design/build or have anything to do with the sound pressure devices used on military ships to ward off pirates and what not? lol I'm sure if people don't know what I'm talking about they will have to laugh at this, but it is real! I also know before, that Scott said you guys do some stuff that actually helps reduce sound/noise in factories? what company name is this all done under? Yeh I know a few questions, just curious. back on topic, although I understand which each pole piece does, it would be neat to see where in the line they are actually installed and a more technical explanation of how they work.

ROFLMFAO!! on a side note to the OP just scroll around the forum, there are unfortunately countless threads on BTL power-handling, try looking around first, there are more than just one page on each section.

SWEET! can't remember if you said before, but what kinda ETA are you shooting for on the V2 Jacob? I know it will be nothing exact, but always nice to have an idea. btw: JAW DROPPED when I read 71mm

If you plan on replacing or upgrading whatever you use in this install, then don't go with the hybrids yet, save your money, besides nothing to upgrade to if you go straight to hybrid! haha

I know you said before you haven't heard the Hybrids, have you heard the Pioneers? If you like a little brighter sounding tweet, go for it.

I can tell you Hybrid stands by their product and they show along with me agreeing, I have never heard of anyone being disappointed in their sound. what other company offers trade-ins from other companies or their own toward newer gear? I would say call Scott on the phone, if you are lucky he will have a "crushed" box or something he can discount for ya.

yes this unit is one of few that has 4 sets of outputs, so in reality you are running a 4-way system including the woofers even though it is commonly called a 3-way system, alpine is one of few companies that understand this. awesome unit, and some of the better capabilities found out there, especially for the money. only unit that is similar price range that really compares is the new audison bitone. you may be able to find an h701 on ebay, or on an SQ forum, usually one or two floatin around on www.buwaldahybrids.com check out the classifieds last I saw someone was selling one.

good suggestion by M5 there. polyfill is def. more useful in sealed, little harder to keep it from popping out of the box. also maybe when you are listening to where this setup falls off, you can also get an idea of how low you actually want to be able to play. both will help us determine a better box choice for you.